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  •  True (none)
    Because a Democrat in Congress is NOT a Republican who will vote for someone like Frist, Lott et all for Majority Leader. That is another good reason to vote for a Democrat and be a Democrat. We may disagree on some issues but in the end, we need to work together and unite.
    We can do more together than apart even if we disagree.

    Tom Coburn: There is No crying in Baseball or SCOTUS Hearings. Your brain has been recalled.

    by wishingwell on Mon Sep 19, 2005 at 04:44:51 PM PDT

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    •  all is fine (none)
      until you have a republican president who offers up a supreme court nominee that might remove the right to choose...

      then it doesn't matter who the speaker is or the majority leader is.  at the point, you just hope that they'll play ball, support fillibusters and/or vote against their personal beliefs..  but i guess you'd make sure that none of these "loose cannons" would have a seat on the judiciary committee.

      in the mean time, if you don't win majorities, you make your position more tenuous on these issues in the hope that maybe next time, you'll get to the point of having majorities.. etc etc.

      You can lead an elephant to water but you can't make 'em think.

      by bill in wa on Mon Sep 19, 2005 at 04:55:22 PM PDT

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    •  Remember, though... (none)
      Taylor has never voted for Nancy Pelosi for Speaker.  In both of the Congresses since she was elected Leader, he has voted for John Murtha (D-PA) for Speaker.  So voting for him means less than you'd think.
      •  If he were the 218th Democrat... (none)
        it seems to me that we at least wouldn't be stuck with Hastert and the Republican leadership.  
        The initial vote for Speaker, if Taylor behaved as in the past two Congresses, would be 217 Pelosi, 217 Hastert, 1 Murtha. With no candidate having a majority, they'd go to a second round.  I would hope Taylor would then vote for Pelosi, but at worst it seems to me we could compromise on Murtha or some other "centrist" Democratic Speaker-- which, with Democratic committee chairs, is still a much better situation than a House led by Hastert and DeLay and so on.

        So while Taylor isn't as good as a Democrat who consistently votes for Pelosi, he's still a lot better than a Republican.

        •  and because we have run fresh out of pro-choice (none)
          democrats he will have to do.


          Liberal, Christian, Feminazi, Mom.

          by TeresaInPa on Mon Sep 19, 2005 at 10:02:17 PM PDT

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          •  The numbers for his district... (none)
            suggest that it's very conservative, as districts represented by a Democrat go.  Taylor's constituents voted for Bush over Kerry by 68% to 31%, and for Bush over Gore by 65% to 33%.  The question isn't whether we've run out of pro-choice Democrats, but whether we've run out of pro-choice Democrats who could win in a district like that.

            True, there does seem to be at least one such Democrat in the entire country: Chet Edwards pulled off a win in a 70-30 Bush-Kerry, 68-32 Bush-Gore district (albeit one in Texas that we'd expect to have an extra pro-Bush skew beyond its basic ideological alignment) while voting against even the "partial-birth abortion" ban.  So it's not completely impossible.  But as far as being disturbed about the rise of antichoice Democrats, it seems to me that there are much bluer districts and states to focus on where the voters would be a lot more receptive to a pro-choice representative.  (In the interest of full disclosure, I'll admit that I still disagree with those who would purge someone like Casey Jr. or Reid from the party, but the argument makes more sense to me as to Democrats like them than it does with respect to someone representing a constituency like Taylor's.)

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