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  •  Abortion is a woman's issue (4.00)
    because only women get pregnancy and only women have abortions.  It it reasonable to suggest that pregnancy is not "a women's issue"?  That's absurd.

    Biology knows nothing or political correctness and legal rights.   All of the physical and emotional risk of a pregnancy or a terminated pregnancy are borne by the female, and no amount of appropriation is going to change that.  

    History doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme--Mark Twain

    by lightiris on Mon Sep 19, 2005 at 06:33:34 PM PDT

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    •  um, sorry (none)
      You are correct of course that women bear the large measure of physical risk in terms of pregnancy, but who bears the emotional risk of a pregnancy, or of the termination of one, is less clear. You may view a husband being upset about his wife's miscarriage, for example, as appropriation, but I think you would be mistaken to do so. And, I might add, if my sister gets raped it means an awful lot to me that she have access to an abortion. Despite McKinnon, sex is not always the equivalent of work, women are not always the equivalent of the worker, and male interest in female sexuality is not always about exploitation and appropriation - though it certainly can be.

      You are, of course, correct that biology knows nothing of political correctness and legal rights - which is why there are plenty of women around who are anti-choice. And why there are plenty of men around who are strongly pro-choice.

      Come get lost in our world: www.politicsandletters.com

      by MonkeyDog102 on Mon Sep 19, 2005 at 07:18:59 PM PDT

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      •  It is certainly NOT less clear (none)
        who bears the emotional risk of pregnancy.  The notion is positively absurd.  No one, least of me is suggesting, the men don't invest in pregnancy or have an emotional stake in abortion, but to raise the level of this interest to the point it blurs whose issue this really is is just silly.  

        History doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme--Mark Twain

        by lightiris on Tue Sep 20, 2005 at 03:15:26 AM PDT

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        •  please refrain from using insults (none)
          like absurd and silly if you wish to continue to have a conversation about this.

          Come get lost in our world: www.politicsandletters.com

          by MonkeyDog102 on Tue Sep 20, 2005 at 03:00:38 PM PDT

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          •  I should add (none)
            that I used up a lot of my tolerance for insults interacting with Armando on related topics. It all sort of makes me tired and want to delete my user name - which is part of my point about civil discourse.

            Come get lost in our world: www.politicsandletters.com

            by MonkeyDog102 on Tue Sep 20, 2005 at 03:11:29 PM PDT

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