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  •  This is so simplistic (none)
    Your assumptions are:

    1. Every single person who voted for Bush, without exception, despises Hillary.

    2. Every single Democrat who wants to withdraw from Iraq also opposes Hillary as President.

    These are just such amazingly simplistic assumptions that I don't know where to begin.

    First of all, just because someone isn't your #1 choice doesn't mean you wouldn't support them for President.  Personally, I would support almost anyone listed, if they ended up as the nominee.

    Second, even if you think everyone hates each and every candidate other than their #1 choice, national polls show Hillary as the #1 Democratic choice of about 40% of respondents.  I think the reasons for the disparity between national polls and dkos polls are quite obvious, and there is no reason to think dkos provides a better sampling of America.

    Plenty of people who don't know much about politics, but know that they're not happy with the Bush Administration, think Hillary would be a perfectly fine alternative.  I'm not trying to prove she's the best choice, but your numbers are just absurd.

    •  of course it's simplified (none)
      But there are also a dozen other good reasons listed here that traditional Democrats despise Hillary - including plenty who were big Clinton fans just a few years ago!  So the fact that it's more complicated cuts both ways.

      You don't think Hillary is probably the Democrat most most reviled by Republicans?  C'mon.  The tragic thing is, her right-tacking has probably earned her about 4 votes.

      So even if I was off by a factor of 2, people who believe in democracy, or want to win, should be looking at candidates who actually represent the majority on Iraq and other issues.  Is this even worthy of consideration?

      Or we so cynical and so partisan that we'd prefer rather have a Democrat than democracy?

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