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  •  Any congresscritter who won't support this... (4.00)
    ...must be voted out of office. They clearly don't believe in freedom and democracy.

    Thwarting the forces of conservatism since 1978.

    by wiscmass on Sun Oct 02, 2005 at 11:13:43 AM PDT

    •  Key word is BALLOT (not receipt) (none)

         Having a voter-verified paper trail is not enough, we need a voter-verified paper ballot (VVPB)  — with legal status to be used for the count or recount.

         Who's afraid of a paper trail used for a recount?

                These Secretaries of State:

                    Nevada (Heller)
                    Florida (Hood)
                    California (McPherson)

        Calif's SoS McPherson is telling Schwarzenegger to veto the new VVPB bill, though it passed the Assembly overwhelmingly and the Senate unanimously.

        Nevada successfully frustrated Cobb's recount request by demanding an exorbitant fee ($346,000).  So Nevada's much ballyhooed paper trail was only a placebo!


      And Florida went to lengths  to avoid a recount in the Slots machine race from November. First, a 74,000 late vote add-on for absentees was not scrutinized or revisited. Second, the Pinellas County gambling vote results were mistakenly reversed by a clerical error and purposely left uncorrected for the record by Glenda Hood's office. If all these numbers were reconciled, the margin for the slots machine would have been slender enough to have forced a recount, which Florida was careful to avoid thru false record-keeping from Pinellas.

      Today, Florida is slow-walking certification of the accessible HAVA-compliant AutoMARK machine interface that would produce opti-scan paper ballot outputs. Hood's office is frustrating the request of Volusia and Leon Counties to buy and use the AutoMARK (co-marketed by ES&S) add-on to their op-scan ballot systems that would let those counties comply with accessibility requirments mandated by HAVA and still have op-scan paper ballots.  See below.


         Issue for the disabled.   The answer to paper output PLUS accessibility to voters who are disabled is a marking device for opti-scan ballot output married to a touchscreen interface such as the AutoMARK, recently federally approved.  One such accessible device is required for every precinct by HAVA;  plain-vanilla optical scan can then provide ballots for the other machines in a precinct.  There may be other brands besides the AutoMARK, but I'm not aware that they offer the same transparency for counting (by people that is, not counting by vendors and tech support to de-encrypt).  So far, Diebold in Florida has stated it does not want to cooperate for an interface for its machines with the AutoMARK.

      You can vote to paper or vapor, that's the real choice.

    •  BUT YOUR VOTE WON'T COUNT!!! (none)
      Nothing will ever work, and nothing has ever worked.  It's all doom and gloom.  Every election ever has been rigged.  And we should just put all our faith in a single federal bill, and ignore working on elections on the state and local levels, especially where Dems are in charge, or where there are Repubs who operate with integrity in a system with decent laws (like we saw with the Washington recount, where the SoS was an honest Repub).  No, we should just say that if this one thing doesn't change EVERYTHING once and forever, and ignore the fact that clean elections will always be something we need to be vigilant about on all levels, then we should just give up and tell everyone that voting is futile and that they shouldn't vote.  That's the corrupt conservatives' wet dream, that a bunch of useless so-called progressives give up if one thing doesn't pass, because their voters will show up to vote them in, and ours will sit at home sucking their thumbs saying "that one piece of legislation didn't pass, so it's useless for anyone to even try."  

      That's it folks, if at first you don't succeed, concede defeat and allow your political ideals to be slaughtered.

      What a useless, pathetic fucking attitude.  

      The revolution will not be televised, but we'll analyze it to death at The Next Hurrah.

      by Dana Houle on Mon Oct 03, 2005 at 07:05:23 AM PDT

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    •  This is a very important point (none)
      We need to bring attention to this issue. And it is most certainly not just Republicans. Senator Dodd is  the fiercest opponent of voter verified paper ballots. Democratic state election administrators in New Mexico, Georgia, Maryland are all advocates for paperless DREs. The point of an grassroots email effort is to demonstrate the widespread popular support for accurate elections.

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