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  •  Ari and Mary Matalin (4.00)
    flipped. And I think Carville is Stephanoplous's source. And Powell is the "senior administration official":

    Powell probably called Fitz: "Any loose ends I can help you tie up there, just let me know. I can testify for days on end. F-- ya right back, Bushies."

    "I ain't always right, but I've never been wrong - seldom turns out the way it does in a song."

    by Glic on Sat Oct 08, 2005 at 02:03:03 PM PDT

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    •  That's Interesting (4.00)
      Any recent sightings of Mary Matalin?  It seems like she and James Carville regularly appeared on Meet the Press, but I cannot recall having seem them lately.  I also can't recall the last time I heard her speak up on behalf of the Bush Administration.
      •  Mary's byline (4.00)
        in CNN, I think, is now: FORMER Bush admin. spokesperson. I noticed it right away, that & the fact that she looks much older.
        •  right after she testified (4.00)
          she was reported to be working on the reelection campaign...but I don't recall that she ever did. She wrote a children's book. She actually left the WH 6 months before the Plame scandal broke, but it's widely believed she testified - she was a part of WHIG and those notes were subpeonaed.

          I think she told the truth from the get-go and if she was in any trouble I don't think Carville would have been laughing in Novak's face the day he (Novak) stormed off the set when the were talking about the Plame leak. Novak knows that Carville knows whatever Matalin knows.

          "I ain't always right, but I've never been wrong - seldom turns out the way it does in a song."

          by Glic on Sat Oct 08, 2005 at 03:23:18 PM PDT

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        •  Where's Carville? (none)
          I haven't seen him for a long time.

          by nyceve on Sat Oct 08, 2005 at 04:44:02 PM PDT

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    •  Let's not forget Tenet and Pavitt (4.00)
      They likely testified fully to the losses incurred by the BrewsterJennings Associates network.

      That's what will be most devastating about this in the end.  The loss of the unit that dealt with WMDs and Energy Intelligence!

      •  I wonder about that too (3.75)
        Remember how shaken Bush looked when he announced Tenet's resignation?

        I've often wondered why Tenet left when he did, so suddenly, and why Bush seemed almost scared?

        •  Right after that, Bush got his lawyer... (4.00)
          •  CIA investigation (none)
              Has anyone seen anything on the CIA investigation that was the basis for asking for the DoJ investigation concerning IIRC violation(s)?  

              CIA was losing people but that was before Goff et. al. went to serious work weeding people out, but there might be some serious investigation with analysis so there might be some interesting connections from that piece, too.

              Someone who was a part of writing the INR memo concerning Wilson either lied, was passed incorrect information or colluded with someone to place the info in the memo; that in itself is one of the little subplots.

              So, in fact, there are two forgeries on Fitz' play card: the INR memo with the statement about Wilson's wife influencing his selection and the Yellowcake/Niger papers.

              Now, two points can indicate a straight line; however, these seem more like two fibers of a longer rope of propagandistic creations for scamming this country and others, too.

            It's hard to teach a man who is afraid. - Worm

            by walkshills on Sat Oct 08, 2005 at 09:19:55 PM PDT

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          •  Whither Meirs? (none)
            Anybody have any lingering doubts over why Bush would put a flyweight, dingy, fawning admirer on the SCOTUS?

            That boy knows the chickens are eventually coming home to roost and he wants to have that court packed for when and if he is forced to answer for his crimes...

            What is amazing is that the GOP majorities allow him to function as a de facto dictator, totally ignoring both the good of the country and the will of the people.

    •  This makes sense, I think (4.00)
      Matalin's loyalty to the Bush family is sickening, but I cannot see her lying to a grand jury. CYA not withstanding, she just doesn't seem the type.

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