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  •  This is the case already (4.00)
    Almost all teacher pay scales that I've ever run across are scaled by a combination of years in the district and level of education.

    Teachers with bachelor's earn the least, those with graduate degrees earn the most - teachers are given pretty large incentives (salary wise) to obtain a minimum of a master's degree.

    That being said, there are a lot of so-so grad programs out there, so I'm not sure how much those advanced degrees mean to the outcomes of the students.

    •  I'm not sure either. (none)
      I think teaching is a vocation...a true calling.  One either is gifted in their abilities to do it or one isn't...for this reason, I'm not sure the notion of judging effectiveness by the number of degrees a teacher has is the way to go.  Certainly in my experiences with my children's teachers it hasn't proven to be the case...some of the best only had bachelor degrees while some of the most mediocre were at the top of the payscale due to graduate degrees.
      •  Somewhat agree (none)

        Of course there are people to whom teaching comes more naturally and there are others who shouldn't teach anyone at all. But ... continuing education can indeed help teachers bring new ideas to the classroom, so I wouldn't discount it entirely. And it can help mediocre teachers become better through new tools and techniques.

        The problem with your 'true calling' notion is that there are not enough of these people who are willing to teach in a public school setting, often due to reasons that have nothing whatsoever to do with pay (i.e, the petty bureacrats of the administration, the 24/7 testing environment of NCLB that squashes creativity, disrespectful and sometimes downright dangerous kids and unsupportive parents).

        •  I do agree with you. (none)
          And continuing education is very important...it just doesn't have to revolve around the traditional thought of obtaining more degrees.  I think more time should be given to allow teachers to network with each other.

          You are very right in that those with a "true calling" are those who are the first to be put off by pressures that are facing the education community.  The present day environment is one that is much more likely to attract beaurocrats rather than "born" teachers.

      •  It's both an art and a science n/t (none)

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