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  •  It's all in the timing (4.00)
    Fitz must come out and make an announcement between now and the 28th, or ask for a new grand jury or reempanel the current one.

    Just need to stall the confirmation hearings in the mean time.

    And make a Plan B around impeachment of a Justice.

    •  Miers hearings aren't supposed to begin (none)
      until first week in November, so hopefully Fitzgerald will have issued indictments by then. A part of me wants him to empanel a new grand jury when this one expires at the end of October, if it means really getting to the bottom of the corruption in the WH. Otoh, if Fitz does ask for a new grand jury, I'm afraid that his investigation will have the kibosh put on it faster than you can say "prison jumpsuit."
      •  If Bush and Cheney are convicted (none)
        Do Roberts and Miers get to stay on the Supreme Court? Seems to me that a President tried and convicted of treason should have all his appointments revisited, no?

        "Unless we each conform, unless we obey orders, unless we follow our leaders blindly there is no possible way we can remain free" - Frank Burns

        by Central Scrutinizer on Tue Oct 11, 2005 at 09:06:37 PM PDT

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        •  why? (none)
          I don't see any legal/constitutional justification for it.  Roberts was approved when Bush was not charged with anything, and still sitting president. Miers isn't approved yet, and I'm half betting she won't be.

          "Mr Pres, what's your opinion on Roe vs Wade?" "I don't care how they get out of New Orleans!"

          by Leggy Starlitz on Tue Oct 11, 2005 at 09:14:18 PM PDT

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          •  There haven't been any investigations (none)
            into his crimes due to the complicit Republican Congress. If the Democrats win the majority in 2006 they will immediately begin investigations into Iraq/Enron/Medicare/Torture/Ohio/Diebold/Plame/Halliburton/9/11/Delay/Frist etc etc. I assume there will be multiple convictions of many/all of the top leadership of the Republican party and administration that should invalidate many of their corrupt decisions shouldn't it? I'm such a dreamer, like the Dems could ever win the majority

            "Unless we each conform, unless we obey orders, unless we follow our leaders blindly there is no possible way we can remain free" - Frank Burns

            by Central Scrutinizer on Tue Oct 11, 2005 at 10:18:15 PM PDT

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            •  why we need to save the vote (none)
              That's why we need to do everything humanly possible to make sure HR 550, The Voter Confidence and Increased Accessibility Act... and that is why the Republicans, desperate to prevent its passage, have introduced HR 3910,

              that will further muck up our ability to have a verified vote, all the while conveniently allowing for Republican cover for vote tally manipulation, voter disenfranchisement and fraud.

              From: We Can Prevent A 2006 GOP Congressional Coup!

              You said it right, Central Scrutinizer, if the Dems win they will immediately begin investigations into

              Iraq/Enron/Medicare/Torture/Ohio/Diebold/Plame/Halliburton/9/11/Delay/Frist etc etc.

              The Republicans are fighting for their lives.

              While we sit around spectating and speculating about the whole Fitzgerald drama, they are making sure it doesn't happen again.

              Basically, Bush may go down, but the Republican revolution will just slough him off like so much dead skin (we're already seeing it with the "he's not a true conservative" movement)... and then keep in winning election after election.

              And we're gonna keep on falling frustratingly short, and there will never be any more investigations.  Because before we can win an election, we have to win the vote.

              It's as simple as that.

              •  It's true, he was set up to be the patsy (none)
                long ago. Even they can't believe how much they got accomplished with him as the figurehead.

                "Unless we each conform, unless we obey orders, unless we follow our leaders blindly there is no possible way we can remain free" - Frank Burns

                by Central Scrutinizer on Wed Oct 12, 2005 at 06:23:57 AM PDT

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        •  How 'Bout the Real Consitutional Crisis: (none)
          At some point it becomes legally factual that he stole election 2000 and/or 2004.

          NOW what about those appointments?

          We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy....--ML King, "Beyond Vietnam"

          by Gooserock on Tue Oct 11, 2005 at 09:36:03 PM PDT

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        •  I've been asking this question (none)
          to some pretty well-versed lawyers.  My understanding is that once a person is sworn in as President, they are legally the President, no matter what.  Thus, the appointments will stand.
          •  What if upon investigation (none)
            It comes out that there was indeed a coup and an illegitemate seize of power that included complicity from the Supreme Court? You really can't make this shit up can you...

            "Unless we each conform, unless we obey orders, unless we follow our leaders blindly there is no possible way we can remain free" - Frank Burns

            by Central Scrutinizer on Wed Oct 12, 2005 at 06:30:21 AM PDT

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          •  Advised and consented (none)
            The actual appointment is not the president's nomination, but the confirmation process upon completion of Senate's advise-and-consent confirmation hearings.

            President does not have ultimate authority except in the case of temporary appointments made during Congressional breaks -- like Bolton's.  In this case, we're not stuck with Bolton for the entire duration of the administration.

            [Thank God, she says under her breath...]

      •  A brand new Saturday Night Massacre (none)
        But of course, there's no Elliot Richardson in this Department of Justice.

        "Our enemy is innovative and resourceful and so are we. Our enemy never stops thinking of new ways to harm us and our country, and neither do we." G.W. Bush

        by litigatormom on Tue Oct 11, 2005 at 10:05:03 PM PDT

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