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  •  a jaw popper of a story in WSJ /Plame (none)
    the article not yet posted for access. Dr. Fitz appears to be up to radical surgery, amputations -(indictments) beyond the outing of Plame. Looks like investigation includes "the marketing campaign" on beating the drums of war. Betcha it takes in who forged Niger doc? No wonder Wilson was a threat - not just a thorn.

    Memory jog and a  hint "mushroom cloud" and the Downing Street memos on fixing the intelligence to justify going to war. Cream floats and we now understand the full meaning of Scooter's line to JM "aspens turning... all connected at the roots."
    Who could Fitz's little helpers be? Also thinking here the CIA bites back.
    Don't think the wait will be much longer. Halloween is a coming and some won't be celebrating. But we'll be.
    Can someone get Cheney's doc to make a house call?

    Let's stop feeding greed. In fact, propose we make a commandment: The greedy shall not be fed.

    by idredit on Tue Oct 11, 2005 at 09:31:46 PM PDT

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    •  provide link or wait till it comes (none)
      out. People will think you are fanning the fire. Let's not let these comments get to over the top until we have the text and proof that it's in the paper. When will this shoe drop? Tonight?

      *This site is slower than Bush's reaction on 9/11.*

      by Chamonix on Tue Oct 11, 2005 at 09:44:14 PM PDT

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      •  you may have a point, my bad (4.00)
        but for the moment there are detailed excerpts from WSJ and WApo via warandpiece at:
        http://www.warandpiece.com

        Let's stop feeding greed. In fact, propose we make a commandment: The greedy shall not be fed.

        by idredit on Tue Oct 11, 2005 at 10:10:13 PM PDT

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        •  Thanks for the link (none)
          Wow, the WSJ article is way more damning than the rawstory piece. That's huge. And from the conservative WSJ!
          •  WSJ is best corporate crime blotter (none)
            While its editorial pages routinely lie and are to the right of Ivan The Terrible, WSJ news pages are famous for digging into the corporate crime blotter. The WSJ has cornered the market on covering corporate greed and that is its major value as a gatherer of news. Brilliant reporters and editors on the news side. Dishonest leadership on the opinion pages, panderers to all that is base and corrupt in the political realm.
    •  Totally convinced (4.00)
      WHIG could have forged the Niger document themselves,  they needed something sexy to sell the war. Voila, Saddam sitting on a stock pile of nuclear weapons, we must fight now.
      •  Plus, very much Rove's MO to (4.00)
        fake/forge documents--Hughes and Bartlett were in on the TANG monkey business as well, trotting down to Texas before the first time Bush was elected, making sure that everything was tidied away.  Bill Burkett (I know, I know, may not be the most stellar source) stated that they were both hanging around at the National Guard facility where and when the TANG docs from Bush's records were being sorted/shredded.  They likely took away with them the most damning ones (the memos by Bush's superior officer), held onto them, and then Rove used facsimiles of the originals, with carefully imbedded errors, to deploy when/if needed.  Heh heh--wonder if Rove held onto the originals to use as leverage in case BushCo ever tried to get rid of him....

        ...the White House will be adorned by a downright moron...H.L. Mencken

        by bibble on Tue Oct 11, 2005 at 10:17:23 PM PDT

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        •  Can you say (none)
          presidential pardon?  It won't matter if he has those documents or not, Rove is very well protected from anything and everything.  He'll get a pardon regardless.  The pictures he must have from all of the years of wiping Jr.'s ass...  

          Tar, feather, meet Rove.

          Healing BEGINS with impeachment...

          by valeria on Wed Oct 12, 2005 at 04:49:59 AM PDT

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      •  Timing (4.00)
        Probably not, given the timing. The burglary in the Niger embassy in Rome took place before BushCo was inaugurated (very early January 2001) and the reports based on the forgeries came in Feburary 2002.

        Which is not to say the same people weren't involved. But the conspiracy behind the Niger documents preceded the formation of WHIG.

        This is the way democracy ends Not with a bomb But with a gavel -Max Baucus

        by emptywheel on Wed Oct 12, 2005 at 02:25:18 AM PDT

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    •  Overlooked aspect... (4.00)
      ... is the CIA. They were the ones that complained about the Plame outing to DOJ. The CIA can make even Cheney and Rove look like amateurs when it comes to skulduggery. Their agents take their responsibilities quite seriously I would imagine and no chickenhawks with small-penis-syndrome are going to best them at what they do best. They bungle things from time to time, they're only human, and they have done some borderline evil things in the past but you can't discount the fact that the CIA is about getting the TRUTH to the highest levels of government. If they're singing to Fitz about what they know then this administration could be toast. LOL

      A pessimist sees a glass half empty. I see a paper cup with holes punched in it.

      by Paper Cup on Tue Oct 11, 2005 at 09:52:48 PM PDT

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    •  Turning... connected at the roots... good! (none)

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