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  •  Sick, twisted economics... (4.00)
    You know, I seriously think two can play at this game.  If the United States became as socialist as Europe or Canada, where would these tax-hating capitalists run to?  Right now, there are lots of countries that your typical middle-class person could still pack up and move to in order to get a better deal before they are completely impoverished.  Can the capitalists say the same?  

    People keep arguing to me that socialism will not work because people who want to work hard and make money won't stick around for it, and you get a brain-drain.  But I say, where are the brains going to drain to, huh?  China?  Most of Europe and Canada have socialized health care!  Where would these capitalists go if we taxed them like they do in Europe?  Eventually, there'll be nowhere they can go that's livable.  The choice will be, live as a responsible tax-paying citizen in the Western world, or as a spoiled dictator in some under-developed country.

    •  it's worse than that... (none)
      that's just the reason that the EU countries are under such pressure to reorganize according to the US/UK model. here's an example from yesterday's financial times.
    •  People never cease to amaze me (4.00)
      about what socialism is and can be.  "People keep arguming...socialism will not work because people who want to work hard and make money won't stick around for it, and you get a brain-drain."  I guess they haven't looked around lately - it's got nothing to do with wanting to work hard.  Now "making money" -- if a citizen's entire goal in existence is to "make money" - yes, socialism won't work.  Brain-drain - don't make me laugh.  Brain power has nothing to do with capitalism now as the doors continue to slam shut - a supine working class and a greedy, selfish, entitled upper class is what's ruining this country. Moreover this class is now putting an education out of reach for our children.  (But I'm sure you've talked yourself hoarse to these people about this.)  and the glaringly inept, entitlement-ridden emblem of foolish entitlement sitting in our White House - I could weep!

      The beneficiaries are likely to be...large corporations and development firms. (O'Connor, J. dissenting in Kelo). God bless you, J. O'Connor.

      by xanthe on Thu Oct 13, 2005 at 06:28:35 AM PDT

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    •  asdf (none)
      Just in case some of you hadn't noticed, there are plenty of capitalists in Europe - they might grumble about marginal tax rates, labour-force inflexibility and social insurance costs, but it doesn't prevent them from doing business and making money on this side of the pond.

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