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  •  Armando (none)
    I don't agree with jasonscorse that the skepticism expressed in these parts about the vote is cynicism; I agree with those who say that it is realism. (And, yes you were harsh but that is grist for a patented Dkos meta-discussion the likes of which I try to avoid.)

    And, while jasonscorse's use of the word "praise" is a little strong for my constitution, it is all relative. Premature and rushed though it was the election is more praiseworthy than, say, the temporary government(s) we installed.

    But (finally) the real focus of this comment is your statement:

    Iraq does not need empty gestures - it needs a plan for stabilizing, securing and reconstructing the country.

    We need to realize that there is no such plan, in the same way that there is no Santa Claus. It is "useful" to pretend that there is a plan out there somewhere to stabilize, secure and reconstruct Iraq as a basis for criticizing the Bush Administration for not adopting it, but the reality is that it will take years and years, if not decades, of killing and probably division of the country into three parts with borders, walls and fences to bring any semblance of order to Iraq. Now, if we want to call that a plan, OK I'm wrong, there is in fact a plan.  

    But, in my view, the only real planning involves how long we stay before we turn to the Iraqis and say, "here are the keys to hell, no need to thank us."

    In life, there are mistakes that can be fixed and mistakes that are irreparable. Iraq falls under the latter category.

    "Mr. President, I'm not saying we wouldn't get our hair mussed." General Buck Turgidson

    by muledriver on Sat Oct 15, 2005 at 01:10:23 PM PDT

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