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  •  Ah, Glorious! (3.66)
    The trouble is, I think Kristol believes that crap. He and others like him look at all the horror and corruption and see nothing wrong. I don't think he's posing, I think he means it.

    To my mind, that makes those folks some kind of space aliens, and either they or we are on the wrong planet.

    •  i don't think any of them "mean it" (4.00)
      in the sense of subscibing to an ethos. we simply have greedy corporations lusting insatiably for money, politicians orgasmic with power (and [less] money,) and rightwing pundits lapping up their table scraps for a few pieces of silver, a pat on the back and a little bit of what in their own minds must seem like a kind of "fame."

      truly pathetic. really they're just sick.


      like fucking manson.

      •  "ascribe to it" (4.00)
        They might or might not believe it, but obviously they ascribe to it. They are cultishly devoted to the neo-con juggernaut that commits treason as one of its many by-products of absolute power.

        But now that this whole fucked up affair is coming into focus for the general public, this scandalous administration and its cronies are being exposed, the BIG question will be how it plays in Peoria.

        Will an honest American public hammer these guys into the basement? 20% approval? Will daily newspapers across the country slam the crooks in the White House and the national media insiders who blindly support them?

        •  i think they have constructed a (none)
          "philosophy" in the same way that they would construct an advertising campaign -- with the goal being the rape of the public coffers and domain, and any "belief system" the equivalent of a catchy jingle or celebrity endorser. i don't think these people "believe" in things the way you and i do --they don't care if "babies are dying" (abortion) anymore than a serial killer empathizes with his victims. they simply use the issue of abortion to stir up the hornets nest of their base and distract public scrutiny  so that they will have cover to do as they please, while pointing to those who would stop them as "baby killers" (as if that had anything to do with clear cutting forests or pumping mercury into the air.)

          sure, some of them have psychotic breakdowns from the guilt and develop actual belief systems to account for their behavior, which takes the form of "dominion theology," but by and large i think these people are just amoral, cold-blooded freaks.

        •  How about... (none)
          "Objectivly Pro-Corruption, Looting and Treason".

          Yep. 'Bout sums it up. Though not quite as much fun as objectivly pro-boiling.

      •  Manson only killed a handfull of people (none)
        Compasionate Christian Conservatives put that record to shame
    •  Kristol does believe this crap (4.00)
      He's like nothing so much as a Stalinist apparatchik singing the praises of the True Communism he's building, as he lies to bring about the deaths of "enemies of the state."  His ends-justify-the-means morality in service to a glorious ideological fantasyland is depressingly familiar for anyone looking back ver the history of the past century.

      Trouble is, fantasyland never arrives.  The vicious means to achieve it become the ends in themselves.  Utopia becomes Dystopia.  I don't know why the legacy of the Busheviks surprises us.  We've watched it happen over and over again.

      Now a New Mexican, and much the better for it.

      by Dallasdoc on Mon Oct 17, 2005 at 04:18:23 AM PDT

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      •  Why not (none)
        Bushist (as in Fascist) than Bushivik (as in Bolshivik)?  At least the Bolshiviks overthrew their Czarist masters while the Fascists (Italy) kowtowed to their masters and the Nazis developed a symbiotic relationship with their former capitalist masters.
    •  They believe in "free markets" (4.00)
      "Free markets" are the answer to everything. Therefore, anything that interferes with the functioning of "free markets" -- including pesky criminal investigations -- are bad.

      Apparently, the one free market they do not believe in is the information marketplace.  THAT one needs to be tightly controlled, with information doled out only to those who can be trusted to use it "properly."

      "Our enemy is innovative and resourceful and so are we. Our enemy never stops thinking of new ways to harm us and our country, and neither do we." G.W. Bush

      by litigatormom on Mon Oct 17, 2005 at 06:02:54 AM PDT

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    •  I agree. (none)
      Only things that stand in the way of his dystopia are evil.  These people believe that the elite should lie and deceive the masses, set up a state religion to control the masses and create an enemy to channel the frustration, fear and impotence of the masses.

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