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  •  Okay Bob (none)
    I have NOT heard of any casualties in my OWN area, as there are NO wind turbines here.  But I, as a wildlife rehabber hearing from all corners of the earth, HAVE heard about plenty of birds that got caught in wild turbines.

    Forgive me for posting a question along those things.  But I'm NOT trying to fight against wind-turbines, but just asking questions, so that I can make an informed decisions.

    I don't know where all of these defensive posts against just a plain question are coming from.

    I'm an environmentalist, in favor of all and any alternatives to our current reliances on the polluting resources we use.

    I am NOT against the alternatives - I'm just trying to get some of my residual questions answered.

    Sorry to touch your bruises, but please, folks, can't we at least discuss this?

    As someone who's worked hands-on for the last 15 years - full-timel - is it not OK for me to ASK a question - as to our future of our Democracy?

    Who's posting things that dismiss my opinions?

    "How smooth must be the language of the whites, when they can make right look like wrong, and wrong like right." Black Hawk

    by Gabriele Droz on Tue Oct 18, 2005 at 09:19:56 PM PDT

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    •  This is a perfectly reasonable request, (none)
      Your question is fair. I thought I responded with a link to some info; the GAO report (reach it by clicking through the AWEA link) is the most comprehensive to date.

      Bottom line: yes, wind turbines kill some birds. There is no denying it. What little data there is in the U.S. suggests that the mortality rate, especially at newer sites, is very low. Studies are ongoing. That is the state of the science.

      The U.S. will have very different dynamics on this issue than almost anywhere else in the world, for two reasons: 1) We are land-rich with areas that have good wind resources, which means that 2) we can afford to locate wind facilities out of major migration corridors.

      Audubon, Bat Conservation Int'l, USF&W and other related organizations are very involved in monitoring and designing mitigation strategies. I'd encourage you, given your background, to check in with them to learn more about what's going on.

      I am the federal government.

      by mateosf on Tue Oct 18, 2005 at 09:42:18 PM PDT

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    •  Thanks, just looking for info. (none)
      Thanks for your response, but my own comment was merely an informational query.  The several reports that I've seen in the last 2 or 3 years indicate that today's wind farms do not represent a hazard to birds.  You seemed to be indicating that your experience said otherwise, and I was interested in knowing what information you have on the topic.  If you can provide any data or information on either side of the discussion, I will be most appreciative.  

      Democrats build; Republicans gut. It's that simple.

      by Bob Love on Tue Oct 18, 2005 at 09:49:46 PM PDT

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      •  Bob (none)
        I'm REQUESTING that very information here.  To inform all of us.

        All I know myself right now is a whole bunch of rehab folks that have rescued birds from near wind towers.

        I posted to find out more about this.  I'll prove or disprove the issue once I hear more.

        THAT'S why I posted.  Because I don't have the answers, but am questioning things all around.

        "How smooth must be the language of the whites, when they can make right look like wrong, and wrong like right." Black Hawk

        by Gabriele Droz on Tue Oct 18, 2005 at 09:58:35 PM PDT

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