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  •  Wingnutz Retort: (none)
    "Yeah, Bush may have lied... but he wasn't under oath!"

    Anyone want to bet that we won't hear this from Freepers?

    Blueshifting: Making progressive politics visible.

    by Malacandra on Wed Oct 19, 2005 at 10:38:41 AM PDT

    •  Tell that to Martha Stewart... (none)
      I don't think she was under oath for the lie that sent her to the pen for several months.

      "We're all working for the Pharoah" - Richard Thompson

      by mayan on Wed Oct 19, 2005 at 10:41:24 AM PDT

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      •  No, she wasn't... (none)
        but the comment was made to an FBI Agent, and lying to the FBI is itself illegal.

        Unfortunately it's not illegal to lie to the Press, although I personally think any statement made by the President in his official station and capacity should always be considered "Under Oath" - it would solve a lot of problems.

        Vyan

        •  I Was Actually Referring to his Interview... (none)
          with the feds in 2004 regarding this case.  If that interview was AFTER the "woodshedding" then Bush would have had to have been very careful to tell the truth regarding what he knew, how he knew it, when he knew it and who told him what.  I would think, given his knowledge, that he would be, at this point, a material witness, if not an actual co-conspirator (assuming that the Daily News story being true, that is.)

          And this is all begging the question of how he could keep Rove on -with the highest of security clearances - after being informed that Rove may have been instrumental in committing a felony that damaged national security.

          "We're all working for the Pharoah" - Richard Thompson

          by mayan on Wed Oct 19, 2005 at 11:22:00 AM PDT

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    •  I remember (none)
      reading somewhere that it's illegal for the commander-in-chief to lie at ALL.  I believe it's a military thing.  Anyway, didn't he already take an oath?
      •  Yes (none)
        W took and oath to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America.  

        He stood with his hand on the bible twice and said that he'd do this... to the best of his ability - which is what gives him an 'out'... given his best. And his ability.

        Nevertheless, it's like a cat taking an oath to preserve, protect and defend mice.

        Blueshifting: Making progressive politics visible.

        by Malacandra on Wed Oct 19, 2005 at 11:01:07 AM PDT

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        •  Absolutely... (none)
          This story is explosive, assuming it's true.  At the least, Bush is a material witness regarding these crimes.  And it could be much more than that, lieing to a fed, obstruction of justice and conspiracy.

          And that's not even assessing the damage of lieing to the US citizenry about his knowledge.

          "We're all working for the Pharoah" - Richard Thompson

          by mayan on Wed Oct 19, 2005 at 11:05:14 AM PDT

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          •  It actually makes me wonder... (none)
            whether or not this could be planted somehow by people in the investigation to "prepare" the country for charges of unindicted co-conspirtor.

            "We're all working for the Pharoah" - Richard Thompson

            by mayan on Wed Oct 19, 2005 at 11:06:35 AM PDT

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        •  Sweet (none)
          Nevertheless, it's like a cat taking an oath to preserve, protect and defend mice.

          that's good.

          real leadership is more than costume changes. --M.Dowd

          by ksingh on Wed Oct 19, 2005 at 04:38:07 PM PDT

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      •  yep (none)
        Bush took an oath and has been lying ever since to the American people.

        Think about all the death and destruction this man has brought to bear?

        We are liberating Iraqis right out of their bodies. Soldiers dead nearing 2000, mainmed i heard 15,000 but who knows ? They know but we will never know.  

    •  and I remember... (none)
      ...several Republican presidents, or their advisors, saying "if the president does it, then, by definition, it's not illegal"

      Not sure how that one'll fly these days...

    •  this meme is so stupid - if you lie to an FBI (none)
      agent or a federal prosecutor it doesn't matter if you are under oath - It's perjury.

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