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  •  Tip Jar. (4.00)
    By the way, Kinky's mystery novels are not terrible. They're actually pretty funny, good airplane books.

    "The bicycle, the bicycle surely, should always be the vehicle of novelists and poets" , Christopher Morley

    by Chris Kulczycki on Wed Oct 26, 2005 at 04:03:33 AM PDT

    •  And yet, more than that somehow ... (4.00)
      As mysteries, they're not very good; they don't often build up much suspense. But that's not what he's after. There are very subtle things in them--the way they shade off imperceptibly from reality into fiction, for instance. The one with Willie Nelson as a main character, Roadkill, is especially interesting in this regard. It also shows off his ability to move from the serious (several of his novels reflect on the life of Father Damien, the priest who ministered to lepers in Hawaii) to the scatological. They're wildly funny, and they're really not like anything else out there. Check out the New Yorker's recent feaure on Kinky for more about Texas's next governor!

      And if you've never heard his music, don't miss "Ride 'em Jewboy," the only country song about the Holocaust, "Rapid City, South Dakota," the only pro-choice country song, or "The Ballad of Charles Joseph Whitman"--who are we to say the boy's insane?

    •  A question? (none)
      I usually write about energy or transportation. In those articles I get a fair number of recommends and make `the list' about half the time. But even though this diary is getting a lot of readers, judging by the poll, there are few recommends. Is this because it is about state race? Or do people not take Kinky seriously? Or is it simply not very good? Nah, couldn't be that last.

      "The bicycle, the bicycle surely, should always be the vehicle of novelists and poets" , Christopher Morley

      by Chris Kulczycki on Wed Oct 26, 2005 at 05:12:31 AM PDT

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      •  There's your tip & a recommend (none)
        People may not be recommending because they're waiting for -- something else! Like indictments. Nah, people probably don't take Kinky seriously -- and rightly so! He did, after all, write "They Ain't Makin' Jews Like Jesus Anymore."

        Love your energy diaries, of course, Chris, and thinking about Kinky is a good way to pass the time until the indictments come down. Of course, if they're sealed, we may have to delay our gratification. (But I'll unrecommend this diary then to move others up so we can pile on bushco better ;)

        It is better to die standing than to live on your knees. - Emiliano Zapata

        by cotterperson on Wed Oct 26, 2005 at 07:06:08 AM PDT

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    •  His books are funny. (4.00)
      In one book he refers to taking a leak as "I am going to go wring hte neck of a little Republican." This was in the '80s or '90s, so he was ahead of the curve.

      Signature Impaired.

      by gttim on Wed Oct 26, 2005 at 07:00:24 AM PDT

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    •  Read one of his books (4.00)
      Can't remember which one. Thought it was crap.

      Saw him at one of his shows (my wife's band was one of the other bands playing at the event). Though he was stupid, offensive and generally crap.

      He'd probably make a brilliant governor.

      I'd prefer a Democrat. But as the Democratic Party is struggling in Texas, I'd take Kinky over any Republican.

      •  Kinky IS a Republican (none)
        •  & buddies with the Bushes (none)
          does anyone actually know how right he?
          •  actually (none)
            i'll take that back.  i know he's buddies with Bush but that's not enough to hold against the guy.  

            i'm not gonna malign the guy just b/c he's running b/c i just don't know where the hell he stands.

            if you take his stuff seriously, you'll be scared stiff.  as it is, you can't.

            still consider my comments below.  nothing agin' Kinky.  just trying to change this place.

        •  His Republican ties are exaggerated (none)
          True, he has voted Repub before. <sigh>
          But like most people in Texas, he has friends in both parties. Willie Nelson is one of his very best friends, and Willie is a hardcore Dem. Kinky has admitted that the Iraq war was probably wrong and he should have listened to Willie. At least he's a man who can admit a mistake. Some of our own Dems are still scared to speak against it.

          If you look at his stances (supports the environment, animals, education, revising the death penalty), many are progressive positions.

          He knows both Clinton and the Bushes, but on the latter, it is more because of Laura... she is active in writer's/library causes and has also helped Kinky raise money for his Utopia Rescue Ranch.

          Plus, I know for a fact that many of his staff are Dems, some are even friends of Ronnie Earle. One of the interesting aspects of his campaign is how diverse his supporters are: young and old, D and R and "just don't give a damn and don't usually vote."

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          by epluribus on Wed Oct 26, 2005 at 09:21:27 AM PDT

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        •  incorrect (none)
          he registered here in Texas an an Independant
    •  why NOT kinky. Not a question. (4.00)
      did we learn NOTHING from Nader?

      give me a second of your time, will you, before you dismiss me as a grump.  trust me.  you don't live in the south & in Delay's district (like i do) unless you got a sense of humor.

      not to rain on people's good times but all this talk of Kinky is a bit disturbing frankly to some of us here in Texas.

      let me be blunt.  this is horse shit.  

      i'll ask you guys again.  DID we learn NOTHING from Nader?

      we took Bush lightly in 2000 & let that @#$(@#$! in.  we laughed at Gore & his stiffness.  we cheered that irrepressible Nader & enough of us took that vote lightly enough that Bush won.  we can get angry at Bush all we want but we also need to look at ourselves b/c we helped these guys get into power.

      (no, not you in the 3rd row.  i know. you saw right through Bush)

      There WAS a difference between the candidates.  We are VERY aware of that today.


      Chris Bell is running for the Democratic seat while Rick Perry (current governor) & Carole Strayhorn are going to fight it out for the Republican seat.

      Let's look at the people:

      Rick Perry

      1.  UNpopular in the state AND with Republicans, setting up a grueling battle with fiery Strayhorn
      2.  Caused MASSIVE traffic jams during Rita when he FAILED to turn the inbound lanes into Houston around - DESPITE desperate pleas from Mayor Bill White & REPUBLICAN Judge Eckels.
      3.  FAILED (along with FEMA) East Texas which was hurt very badly by Rita (despite how little people were aware of it).
      4.  Told GAY VETS to not find another home besides Texas.
      5.  Believes HOMOSEXUAL SEX should be illegal.
      6.  DID NOTHING to reform school financing that failed this summer.
      7.  Signed an anti-abortion bill IN A CHURCH!!

      Carole Strayhorn
      1.  She's got alot of pull here in Texas.  Although I still expect her to lose (mostly due to incumbency), I think it's going to be a grueling battle & will make the winner a weaker candidate. IN OTHER WORDS, THE GOP CANDIDATE WILL BE A VULNERABLE
      2.  Tried to remove the tax exempt status of the Unitarian Church b/c they didn't have the "right" creed.
      3.  Spent $600,000 in the opening volley against Perry & has plenty more to beat him up.

      So far you know why NOT GOP.  But WHY Chris Bell?

      Chris Bell

      1.  Started the whole Tom Delay indictment train wreck when he BROKE the truce that existed between the Dems & Repubs to not investigate each other's ethics & filed a complaint against Delay.  THAT'S RIGHT.  HE BROKE WITH THE DEMOCRATS TOO.

      2.  He's A GODDAMN genuine Progressive.  100% rating by NARAL (abortion).  100% rating by NEA (eduction).  100% rating by APHA (public health).  100% rating by SANE (pro-peace).  93% rating by AFL-CIO.  89% rating by ARA (seniors).  8% rating by Christian Coalition (A GOOD THING).


      4.  Lastly, he actually talks about the issues & believes voters are smart enough to keep up.  Get it?  HE BELIEVES IN THE PEOPLE & BELIEVES DEMOCRACY BELONGS TO THE PEOPLE:
      "Texas has a lot of challenges, but if I choose to run I will talk about opening democracy to mainstream Texans and not just to a closed circle of entrenched ideologues. "


      i'm not mad at Kinky.  What's to be mad at?   The man's funny as shit!

      & yeah, you're right.  WHY VOTE FOR A DINO or a crappy Democratic Party?  

      but the problem is we don't have a DINO.  The man told the Democratic Pary of Texas to take a hike & filed the complaint against Tom Delay.  

      JUST FOR THAT WE NEED TO SUPPORT HIM BUT here's a better reason:  Chris Bell is a GENUINE progressive candidate & if we want to encourage him & other progressives to keep running, then GODDAMMIT we need to support them.

      Cuz if you can't get excited about a REAL PROGRESSIVE Candidate then why the hell are you here?!?!

      Look.  Have fun.  I do.  Kinky's hilarious.  But there's a time for fun & there's a time for change.  

      If you want to change Texas in 2006 & beyond, join Chris Bell & support Texans who really want & deserve a change.

      no offense to anyone here including the author.  i know kinky can be contagious but Chris deserves our support & he's just the man to reform the Democratic Party in TExas (which is beginning to show life finally - don't take the reformer's knees out with an embarrassing loss to an independent).

      •  Excellent. And just to set the record straight (4.00)
        I just want to say that I don't necessarily support Kinky. Hell, I don't even live in Texas thank God (and this from an atheist) My aim here is to get a dialog going, provide a little news, background, and comedy and to get folk's minds off Fitzmas for a few minutes. Your appraisal of Bell is more positive than any I've read; hope you're right.

        "The bicycle, the bicycle surely, should always be the vehicle of novelists and poets" , Christopher Morley

        by Chris Kulczycki on Wed Oct 26, 2005 at 08:25:36 AM PDT

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        •  thanks for the diary (4.00)
          & i mean that.  PLEASE RECOMMEND b/c i think we need to put the Kinky question to bed quick (no pun intended).

          Chris, keep the diary & none of that was a charge against you.  I just saw you as reporting something.  Thank you for getting the attention to it like i haven't been able to.

          I've heard Chris talk & he's a good guy.  & he's "Texan" enough & Rick Perry weak enough to make this a closer race than we think it'll be.

          I'm tired of Texas being the butt of jokes so there's the sensitivity but more to the point I just tired of all these crazy Republican F@#$'s thinking they own the world b/c they can manage to redistrict their way to power in one relatively small area of the world (yeah, Texas).

          If you guys are tired of it too, help us kick their sorry asses here in Texas.  Time to put these FUCKS on the defensive.

          •  Kinky (4.00)
            Let me tell you what happens when Kinky gets elected Governor.  All his "great" ideas go absolutely nowhere and then he gets bored.  I live in Minnesota, and the last couple of years of Ventura were not pretty.

            The Democrats have a good guy running for Governor and the Republicans are fighting amongst themselves.  Let not piss that away by supporting this fuckhead.

            It takes a second to wreck it. It takes time to build.

            by lando on Wed Oct 26, 2005 at 09:17:36 AM PDT

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            •  Fuckhead is Right (4.00)
              Egotistical fuckhead at that. His laughs will push Ds back 10 years in our attempts to buid our base.

              "I'll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him." Bush on Osama-3/13/02

              by chuco35 on Wed Oct 26, 2005 at 09:30:05 AM PDT

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            •  Lando, have a '4'. Thanks for giving me a '1' . (4.00)
              Was it simply because you don't like the subject of my diary? Remember, I didn't support Kinky, just about him. Do you tear up newspapers that print stories you don't like, run you car into radio stations that report on candidates you don't agree with? Sad.

              "The bicycle, the bicycle surely, should always be the vehicle of novelists and poets" , Christopher Morley

              by Chris Kulczycki on Wed Oct 26, 2005 at 10:34:17 AM PDT

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              •  Ok (4.00)
                I changed it to a 3.  Ratings abuse on my part.  I have been arguing with Armando the last few days so I have been a little quick on the trigger with bad ratings.  

                The Kinky lovefest on this site just pisses me off, though.  I had to listen to the same shit from my liberal friends when Jesse was running for governor. Jesse would have pulled about 4 percent if he had run for re-election.  The house (republican) and Senate (Democrat) leaders just ran the state without him.  He did absolutely nothing other than to push for his personal pet issues, like jetski and fireworks regulations.

                I would say that Bell has about a 1 in 20 chance of winning a staight-up race with Perry, and has no chance with Kinky running. Maybe with those odds, its ok to throw your vote away.  The Texas Democratic party is in awful shape, but voting for some jackass like Kinky is just surrender.  

                It takes a second to wreck it. It takes time to build.

                by lando on Wed Oct 26, 2005 at 10:52:49 AM PDT

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              •  Thanks for changing it. (4.00)
                See, we can all get along, almost.

                "The bicycle, the bicycle surely, should always be the vehicle of novelists and poets" , Christopher Morley

                by Chris Kulczycki on Wed Oct 26, 2005 at 10:57:19 AM PDT

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              •  lando (none)
                yes, please reconsider the 1.  Chris is actually doing a good job of reporting this & getting the conversation going on Kinky.
        •  btw (none)
          would appreciate a link to this comment in your diary.  just for a counter argument to kinky.

          either way, that took alot outta me.  see ya around.

      •  correction (none)
        on Rick PErry's 4th bullet:  Of course he told gay vets to leave the state.
      •  fuck that. (none)
        I'm voting kinky. Enough establishment bullshit. Same old shit and frankly i don't care who i get as long as it's not some mainstream well groomed finely honed bought and paid for droid.

        If Anne Richards runs I'll consider somebody else but they better not be in anyone's pockets.

        color me naiive but I've had it. Especially in TX.

        I don't think anyone anticipated the breach of the levees

        by tinfoilhat on Wed Oct 26, 2005 at 09:14:52 AM PDT

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        •  so ... (none)
          you believe the following is correct:

          Chris Bell = S.O.S.



          Some times require that you accept circumstances as they are ... claiming blamelessness just doesn't cut it

          by wystler on Wed Oct 26, 2005 at 09:33:14 AM PDT

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        •  yes. that's it. (4.00)
          establishment bad.  man with funny name good.  let's vote him in & laugh at his jokes b/c that's pretty much all he's going to do.


          my apologies.  i'm being a jackass.  you're frustration with the powers to be is warranted & frankly i've had the same idea.

          but if we throw in the towel here, we lose everything.

          ask yourself the question, is it worth it?  was voting for nader worth it?

          Howard Dean is changing the Democratic party.  did he say fuck it?  or did he roll up his sleeves & get to work.

          it really IS hard work (george) making things change.  you won't win every time.  in fact you'll lose often.  why do it?  for some elusive change in the future that may never happen?

          why do it?

          good luck with your choices.

      •  krazypuppy, you have convinced me (4.00)

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