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  •  Do you refer to "Mr. Madison's war"? (none)
    Our invasion of Canada was the main reason Canada moved their Capital North to it's present site, though Britain certainly wasn't blameless in what lead up to the war (impressing our sailors on the high seas for instance).
    Essentially the U.S. Congress got the deranged idea that our ridiculously unprepared military could succeed, and that the U.S. could annex large parts of Canada. Instead we ended up getting thoroughly trounced (except of course in New Orleans after the signing of the truce) Britain responded by invading though Chesapeake Bay, (which lead to the burning of D.C.) and through Canada & Great Lakes. BTW,  We damn near lost a couple of New England States through secession due to their being largely (and wisely) opposed to the Federal Government's ill-conceived military adventure. In the end I guess it would be fair to say that we invaded one another, but by no stretch, even in jest, could one argue that we have a "payback" due.

    "We have too many high-sounding words, and too few actions that correspond with them." Abigail Adams 1764

    by greeseyparrot on Wed Oct 26, 2005 at 11:56:41 AM PDT

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    •  Not that, I don't think (none)
      I have a vague memory of a Canadian telling me of some small, little-known (I thought) incident where Canadian military crossed the border into Michigan or Wisconsin. Perhaps it was the Fort Detroit capture, but as I said I thought there was something else, something more obscure.

      Or maybe I just dreamed that Canadian. Do you guys get Canadians in your dreams too?

    •  The funny part is (none)
      that is you read the comments of the warhawks in COngress in 1811-1812, they sound rather familiar to people paying attention in 2001-2002.

      You know, evil oppresive regime, people longing to be free, troops met with cheering, that sort of thing.

      The same sort of statements made in 1777, 1778, 1812-1814 and in the 1860s Fenian Raids, as it happens.

      Clearly when we sent the "thanks, but no thanks" memo in 1776 in response to the offer of joining the rebellion, the message didn't get through.

    •  1812 (none)
      You go to war with the army you [don't] have, not with the army you might want.
      •  giant pumpkin (none)
        you recently tried to invade us with an army of one: martha stewart in a giant pumpkin.
        even THAT didn't work out.
        i expect the pentagon was behind that fiasco as well.
        •  Ha! (none)
          Well, at least Canada Customs managed to keep Fred Phelps and his merry pranksters out of the country.  Hate speech, and all that.

          "The state has no place in the bedrooms of the nation." - Pierre Trudeau

          by fishhead on Wed Oct 26, 2005 at 04:14:50 PM PDT

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