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View Diary: The 'Up or Down Vote' talking point is dead (73 comments)

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  •  Nonsense (none)
    A nominee that withdraws cannot get an up or down vote.  D'uh.  That's like demanding an up or down vote for John Roberts to fill the seat of O'Connor for which he was originally nominated.  No one (on the right) ever argued (well maybe there were some lonely voices) to have Miers filibustered.  But it is pretty clear that she understood that she did not have 50 votes and withdrew.  No one refused to hold a vote.  Nor has anyone ever argued beforehand that the vote must be held immediately upon the nomination.  No one disputed that investigations should have been had, hearings completed, floor debate scheduled, etc.  The "up & downers" have been consistent on this.
    •  those who declared her unqualified before (none)
      she even got a hearing most certainly did "dispute[] that investigations should have been had, hearings completed, floor debate scheduled, etc."
      •  Ummm... (none)
        Qualifications (or lack thereof) are readily apparent from the resume.  I don't think you need hearings to ask "is it really true taht you never once wrote an article on a relevant con law issue?"
        •  so you don't deny disputing (none)
          "that investigations should have been had, hearings completed, floor debate scheduled, etc."
          •  Huh? (none)
            All I was saying that no one ever advocated an up and down vote as soon as the Prez nominated someone.  The up and down vote was urged for those people who went through the process, were vetted, and voted out of the committee.  No one ever suggested that the President gets to dictate the Senate schedule.

            Miers went through the part of the process and decided to withdraw before undergoing the rest of it.  Since she withdrew, no need for a vote.  The end.

            •  huh == poor reading comprehension (none)
              "All I was saying"

              You said "No one disputed that investigations should have been had, hearings completed, floor debate scheduled, etc."  That's the only part of what you said that I addressed.  That claim was false; people have disputed, vociferously, that she ever should have been selected, and clamorously called for Bush to withdraw her, which he did.  Whatever one thinks of that, it's a fact.

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