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  •  I got your points (none)
    And, as I said earlier, I agree.

    My point is, increase the heat.  Increase the level of jeopardy they face.

    It isn't a matter of should.  If we lived in a perfect world...etc.

    And a civil action is what I was recommending, since it's the only recourse they would have.  Any criminal actions have to be undertaken by the DA.

    "Whatever they want the answer is no. Now is not the time to fold, now is the time to up the ante." -- Charles Pierce

    by baba durag on Sun Nov 06, 2005 at 12:44:02 PM PST

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    •  In that case... (none)
      ...there are two tasks that must be undertaken:

      1. Convince the DA that failure to charge Soleto with multiple felony counts of perjury, conspiracy, fraud, etc., will result in a strong push to recall him from office. I think it's unlikely that this will be necessary; if you read upthread, someone with knowledge of the local DA says he tends to be non-partisan. If that's the case, we should be able to expect some charges.

      2. Find a good civil rights attorney to take up the civil case pro bono. As another commenter noted upthread, many of the voters whose rights were challenged can't afford to chip in $100. I'd be shocked if there were no Seattle-area attorneys who would be willing to take the case for free, or at least on a contingency basis.

      Thwarting the forces of conservatism since 1978.

      by wiscmass on Sun Nov 06, 2005 at 12:55:40 PM PST

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      •  Jeebus (none)
        If people can't afford to kick in $100, then of course they shouldn't.  I wasn't offering any directives, I was offering an idea.  Frankly, I think it's a good one.  You seem to take issue with it, for reasons I find utopian ("they shouldn't have to").  Who cares if we shouldn't have to?  Why not fight back with all the weapons you can muster?  That's all I'm saying.  

        I agree, the DA ought to be encouraged, supported, urged, even goosed to prosecute to the maximum extent possible.  If the injured parties also mount a civil action, so much the better.  Do you disagree with that?

        When you put your own money on the line in a fight like this you carry much more credibility.  Pro bono is a fine idea, but it leaves you open to the smear that it's all about financial gain, rather than purely about righting a wrong.

        What I'm suggesting is that the 2000 or so people on the list should band together and mount a group effort to make these bullies hurt.  I don't see what the objection to this idea is.

        "Whatever they want the answer is no. Now is not the time to fold, now is the time to up the ante." -- Charles Pierce

        by baba durag on Sun Nov 06, 2005 at 01:10:41 PM PST

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        •  i didn't read (none)
          your reply.  and i feel better for it.

          cheers to the people upthread who wrote insightful comments.

          jeers to annoying bulldogs that can only attack or think (guess which action a certain bulldog is taking)

          •  if you didn't read it (none)
            then you can only speak from ignorance.  You can't possibly a) know my intent, or b) speak intelligently about it.

            "Whatever they want the answer is no. Now is not the time to fold, now is the time to up the ante." -- Charles Pierce

            by baba durag on Sun Nov 06, 2005 at 09:05:42 PM PST

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      •  fyi (none)
        baba durag is not worth talking to (for reasons illustrated in this thread, namely, attributing "points" to a writer that the writer doesn't make).  i am sure you have realized it by now.  just a fair warning for everyone else ..

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