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  •  Don't think cradle to grave; (none)
    •  Agree (4.00)
      It's really important to consider the consequences of anything we make or use.

      We're leaving a legacy of plastics, concentrated toxic heavy metals, and manmade organic molecules that will be around for millions, if not billions of years.  Some of this legacy (very little, since the scale is still so small) comes from renewables technology.  Most of it comes from industrial garbage and household trash and winds up in landfills.  Some solar panels have to be disposed of in toxic waste dumps, as do other types of semi-conductors.

      Maybe technologies ought to be required to show how the materials they use can and will be recycled.  

      •  EU is working on this (4.00)
        See the RoHS movement in the electronics industry and the recycling plans for cars.  This is the way to approach the problem, design in the proper recycling of a product when it is built.  Then the recycling process is much easier and effective.

        Reduction of Hazardous Substances (RoHS) is being implemented now in the electronics industry to prepare for the July 2006 implementation in the EU.  The US is once again behind the ball, we will not be able to export to the EU unless our products meet those standards.  One more area where the hapless Repugs have ill-served our country.

        Underwater turbines look like an attractive option to me, there is a lot more energy density in water over air, and as Chris points out, the tides are quite predictable to real scientists, although probably a mystery to the ID idiots.

      •  I am in love with McDonough's (4.00)
        idea of eliminating the very notion of waste and modeling all on nature: everything becomes part of a nutrient stream. There is no waste.

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