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  •  Well done! (none)
    Thanks for these.

    Here's a map I'd like to see:  the same geographic mapping rejiggered to show the relative populations of the states.  (You are familiar with these, yes?)  The "colored by state" maps are misleading for almost every use except the electoral college (for US presidential elections).  Popularity must be judged by population.  Your maps unintentially give weight and gravitas to vast stretches of rural, effectively empty American counties.  Simply put, these maps emphasis area -- they mislead.  Liberals, progressives, and centrists will always be extremely under-represented in maps by area, because they concentrate in and around very densely populated places (cities).  Correct for this, and you begin to reflect back to America more what it actually looks like.

    -5.13;-6.92 De-Bu$hify NOW! Remove *every* Bu$hCo appointee and revoke their security clearances

    by Yellow Canary on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 08:03:00 AM PST

    •  Simple solution for that problem (none)
      Let's figure out how to appeal to rural residents without selling out our progressive ideals.

      These areas were the backbone of the Populist and Progressive movements.  If we address their concerns, they can be again.

      •  It's a good idea to appeal to ... (none)
         ... rural voters, but you have misplaced my main point:  Geographic maps of the US colored by area erroneously misrepresent the electorate.  They greatly over-weight the (always right wing) rural counties and greatly under-weight the (usually left-of-center) urban and sub-urban counties.  Every geographic map propagates this misunderstanding.  We think of these maps as "us" reflected in a mirror.  They are not.  They magnify the right and minify the center and the left.

        -5.13;-6.92 De-Bu$hify NOW! Remove *every* Bu$hCo appointee and revoke their security clearances

        by Yellow Canary on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 08:32:01 AM PST

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    •  I'll look into it (none)
      I thought I saw a free program to download for that.  I love those maps.

      There remains something to be said for the standard maps though: they're familiar, good for geographic comparison, and if you're thinking about the Senate.

      Thanks for the suggestion.

      •  Thanks. (none)
        I hope the program is easy to locate and use.

        The familiarity of the standard US political map is exactly what needs to be countered.  Your objections are well founded.

        One of my favorite US maps is the one which contrasts states with net outflow of federal tax revenue to states with net inflow.  Guess which states get money and which states give money?  That's right: the liberal states are paying the conservative rural religious states to fight them.  Yes folks -- we are funding the Republican Machine.

        The map is here

        -5.13;-6.92 De-Bu$hify NOW! Remove *every* Bu$hCo appointee and revoke their security clearances

        by Yellow Canary on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 08:45:33 AM PST

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    •  Here are some examples (none)
      of a map of US election results that corrects for population vs area.

      Robert Vanderbei's maps

      Sara Fabrikant's maps for 2004 and 2000 election

      Chaos, fear, dread. My work here is done.

      by madhaus on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 08:42:47 AM PST

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      •  Dreaminonempty knows these ... (none)
         ... thanks for posting the links.  I prefer the ones presented as small squares plotted on a grid, as I think that the mental translation of the geographic map to the gridded symbolic one is both easier to make and more specific to the data presented than the translation to the geographically slewed you posted.  Those slewed maps balance population and geography, and confusingly include a great amount of non-US space (the area between the contiguous 48 states and Alaska and Hawaii).  They still over-emphasize the actual geography, which isn't that important.  The only important geographic characteristic in this analysis is proximity, which is retained in the gridded maps.

        -5.13;-6.92 De-Bu$hify NOW! Remove *every* Bu$hCo appointee and revoke their security clearances

        by Yellow Canary on Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 08:58:26 AM PST

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    •  Think Electoral College. n/t (none)

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