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  •  actually police (3.00)
    aren't ALWAYS thugs.

    You just like to think they are so it proves your point.  I've known many cops, none of whom were "thugs," as you gleefully repeated.

    Bullshit, Jesus, those are obviously my footprints.

    by als10 on Fri Nov 25, 2005 at 02:51:20 PM PST

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    •  Cops (3.00)
      EVERY cop I've ever encountered has been a thug.

      And that's not something I "gleefully" repeated.

      I'm happy for you that you know some cops who aren't thugs. I wouldn't want you to be on the recieving end of the ones I've had the misfortune of encountering.

      False words are not only evil in themselves, but they infect the soul with evil.--Socrates

      by Ranting Roland on Fri Nov 25, 2005 at 02:58:33 PM PST

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      •  where & how do you meet these thugs? (none)
      •  I used to respect cops. (4.00)
        I was raised to respect cops and the job they performed. Then I had a cop for a roomate (from a major metro force). After knowing him and his friends, I will never trust a cop again. He would bluster about "we don't interpret the law, we just enforce the law" but turn around on a regular basis and do exactly that.

        I saw him get off the hook on more than one occasion when he should have been cited for DUI by conveniently flashing his badge as he produced his drivers license. I heard how cavalierly he and his buddies talked about citizens on the street and inmates in the jail. He was the classic case of parlaying an on-the-job injury into a retirement settlement, taking sick days to do major repairs to the house or his RV. More than one of his buddies abused prescription drugs, some obtained illegally, and he was addicted to them. One of his pals was an inveterate shop lifter and had a steroid and oxycontin drug business on the side. And I've seen first-hand how they abuse the system and get away with it.

        Yeah, I know there are honest cops out there and, unfortunately, some are injured or killed in the line of duty. But I sure as hell don't trust any of them. Even the good ones are prone to following their pre-conceived notions. I've encountered cops on more than one occasion struggling to make circumstances fit into their little boxes.

        Tim LaHaye can kiss my "left behind"

        by homogenius on Fri Nov 25, 2005 at 04:41:42 PM PST

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        •  what (4.00)
          you said.  

          Most cops are dirty.  

          I had a cop actually steal money from my 16 year old son's bedroom.  No doubt he thought it was "ill gotten" gain, so my son wouldn't report it to a parent.  However, it was legitimate money from a legitimate job and I saw it in my son's room moments before cops came to search (on a probation search - no warrant - never found a thing - nothing TO find).  Misdemeanor probation with a warrantless search condition.  How can that be constitutional?

          Because cop figured son was a crook, figured son was a good person to victimize.  

          I have many, many stories of dirty cops in san fran.  I have actually filed complaints and had them sustained at the OCC.  

          Believe me -- office misconduct/corruption - it is RAMPANT and anyone who works in the criminal justice system knows it.

          •  SFPD is well known (none)
            among bay area PD's as a real shithole. Many will not consider a lateral hire if the applicant is from SFPD.

            OTOH, I think this is true of all  big-city PD's. All large organizations eventually devolve int caricatures of themselves :-(

            Come see TV from the reality-based community at

            by MarkInSanFran on Fri Nov 25, 2005 at 07:20:05 PM PST

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      •  Well then (none)
        It's semantics.  You've switched from "All cops are thugs" to "all the cops you encountered had been 'thugs.'"

        I was just trying to make the distinction that you omitted (purposefully?) from your first argument.

        And I apologize for rating and replying.  I hadn't intended to reply at first, but then I changed my mind, but had already rated.  I know that sounds like bullshit, but I didn't intend to do so.  So yeah, sorry for the misuse of the rating system.

        Bullshit, Jesus, those are obviously my footprints.

        by als10 on Fri Nov 25, 2005 at 07:42:51 PM PST

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