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  •  Not just Lieberman.... (none)
    There's a big difference between Lieberman waxing eloquent about the blossoming democracy in Iraq, and Warner saying it's incumbent on the President of the United States to lay out his strategy and his milestones in complete detail. I completely disagree that Warner's recent statement (which Kos takes such umbrage to) amounted to, "We should stay in Iraq until George W. Bush's wildest dreams are achieved." He said that George should stop playing footsie with the American public and explain exactly what he expects to achieve, and when he expects to achieve it. That's a valuable message to promote. It might just help us get out of Iraq.

    Kos has a way of drawing a big circle around everyone with whom he disagrees and calling them "The Enemy." Enough circular firing squads. Lieberman is a fucking liar, or else he's living in a neoconservative fantasy-world, and we're all sick of him. But I'm also tired of Kos drawing up battle lines within his own party. And it's both boring and a little sick to watch Warner gradually herded into the Daily Kos Circle of Enemies. Kos needs to pick a few centrists whom he can tolerate well enough not to stab in the back, because without that wing of the Democratic Party, 51% is not going to happen for us. Ever.

    We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are. - Anaïs Nin

    by Valentine on Tue Nov 29, 2005 at 08:53:27 AM PST

    •  True...yet painful (none)
      We can't stab our own party in the back, that's the truth.  But we can't allow fighting to occur within our own party either.  Some centrists, such as Mark Warner, don't pick on the liberals, they just disagree in a friendly manner.  Joe, on the other hand, does.  And he's made a lot of enemies within his own party because of it.

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