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View Diary: Pombo Diaries #7: Sen. Allard (R-CO) Opposes Public Lands Giveaway (22 comments)

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  •  Sheesh (4.00)
    Pombo and Gibbons recently hinted they may amend the proposal to allow hunting and fishing after patents have been granted.

    Yeah, the fishing will be really great downstream from those mines.

    BTW, your title scared me a little, 'cause I wasn't sure which side the Senator was on board with. How about "Another GOP Senator Opposes Giveaway?"

    Pointless, incessant barking since Mon Feb 9, 2004 at 3:05:52 PM MST

    by Blue the Wild Dog on Wed Dec 07, 2005 at 09:45:33 AM PST

    •  Tips? Advice? (4.00)
      Here I got a "tip" before I even asked.  And it's good advice.  As soon as this is posted, I'll edit the title from "another GOP senator on board" to what you've suggested.  Thanks!
      •  Just an FYI (none)
        Here in NM, the Coalition for the Valle Vidal, the New Mexico Wilderness Alliance and the Albuquerque Wildlife Federation are all putting for significant time and energy to defeat this.  That is key because Domenici has yet to take a stand on this.  He, as usual, is key to defeating this thing.

        -9.0,-5.54 A real soldier died in his Hummer so you could play soldier in yours.

        by environmentalist on Wed Dec 07, 2005 at 03:19:03 PM PST

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      •  I'd also like to mention (none)
        The local Sierra Club, LCV in Albuquerque and Defenders of Wildlife have been going door to door on this.  They have been very effective in tying this mess to the Valle Vidal.  We've been saying that if this wins, then the Valle Vidal battle is over.  We lost.  Its all been a real distraction but its brought alot more good folks out of the woodwork.

        And one other thing....I've had alot of discussions with FS and BLM folks  here on this.  There is a HUGE internal movement against this bill.  There is alot of pressure from the local offices on the higher ups and it sounds like alot of people high up are feeling the heat.

        -9.0,-5.54 A real soldier died in his Hummer so you could play soldier in yours.

        by environmentalist on Wed Dec 07, 2005 at 03:30:28 PM PST

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    •  It's not really about mines... (4.00)
      Much of the land in dispute, at least in Colorado, has already been mined; the tailings piles are already leaking cyanide and heavy metals into the streams.  The problem Trout Unlimited and others have with it is removal of access.  Go to Clear Creek, Teller, Pitkin, Eagle or other mountain counties in Colorado and you'll find placer mining claims along every major streambed downstream of a gold deposit.  If Pombo's vision of the future were to pass, trout fishing - a multi-million dollar tourist business in Colorado - would be shot to hell, because access to the streams would be cut off by private land owners looking to purchase those claims and the surrounding land from the Feds.

      There's an ongoing issue with access to popular hiking routes up Colorado's 14ers (14,000+ ft. peaks); mining claims still controlled by private owners create liability issues, and private owners are sometimes cutting off the only functional hiking routes up these popular mountains.  Allowing this legislation to pass would create thousands of new, active private ownership issues, and again Colorado's tourism industry would suffer badly.

      Allard has not been insensitive to envrionmental issues - especially those which affect Colorado's tourism industries; he helped negotiate the final purchase of the Great Sand Dunes National Park and Preserve lands, and I believe he is currently involved in providing some kind of liability relief for mine claim owners along hiking routes.  This was a wise move for him after his blunders on torture and other subjects.

      Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves. - William Pitt

      by Phoenix Rising on Wed Dec 07, 2005 at 09:57:24 AM PST

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      •  Two-two-two mints in one! (4.00)
        Right you are.  Except it's also about mining.  Especially in Nevada, where the landscape in the northern part of the state is being ripped to shreds by the New Gold Rush.
        •  True, that (4.00)
          Here in Colorado, the price of further extraction hasn't yet been overrun by the price of gold.  Molybdenum, yes; gold and silver, no.  So while Nevada's Congresscritter wants his gold extraction, Allard has no such competing interests driving him.

          If Pombo had really had his way, we'd be selling off land inside Rocky Mountain National Park, too, along with Arches and Canyonlands in Utah (big old Uranium claim area).  The man has no shame, and he needs to go in 2006; we should make his seat a target and make sure his opponent is well-trained and well-funded.

          Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves. - William Pitt

          by Phoenix Rising on Wed Dec 07, 2005 at 10:22:43 AM PST

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