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  •  Are you a closet Republican? (none)
    Fine, ignore the evidence. Shut your eyes and pretend all is good. Now, head over to RedState or somewhere else.

    "Fair and square" my ass. YOU KNOW NOTHING about what happened in 2004 - OBVIOUSLY.

    •  Okay, show me (none)
      The Republicans were screwing the polls for a month before the election? Come on. Why is this the reaction to an attempt to insert some sanity into this debat?

      •  You don't have to blame it on Diebold (4.00)
        you can blame it on VOTE SUPPRESSION.

        Ask college students in Ohio who tried to register and were given the run-around.

        Ask voters who got to the polls and found they would have to stand outside in the rain and dark in order to vote.

        Ask voters who were given provisional ballots at the polls - votes that they would cast without knowing whether they would be considered worthy of counting.

        Ask voters who got to the polls to find the machine for their precinct malfunctioning - maybe they took a provisional ballot to vote on, maybe they left without voting.

        Ask would-be voters who got strange mailings saying they -wrongly and illegally- that they were ineligilbe to vote if they had parking tickets, or that their polling places were changed.

        Diebold didn't necessarily have anything to do with these particular tactics, BUT

        Democrats better wise up fast to these vote suppression strategies that have been rolled out in 2000 and 2004 and will be refined and increased in 2006 and 2008.  

        In many places, the effects of these tactics will mean the difference in the elections - that is where the margin of victory will come from.

        •  I agree on the voter surpression (none)
          but the Diebold-stuff is really making people look stupid. I don't think Kerry would have won, even if the vote was not surpressed. Thanks to Kerry's incompetent campaign, Bush was able to turn the election into a referendum on Kerry.

          Advise: Never choose a candidate who has Bob Shrum as his adviser.

          •  Have you looked at the vote suppression numbers? (none)
            Though, I admit, they are hard to come by, it's not as if anyone official keeps track of them in one central place.
          •  Diebold in Ohio (4.00)
            From the Cleveland Plain Dealer, Thurs, Oct 8:


            Diebold execs gave to GOP despite ban

             Thursday, December 08, 2005
            Julie Carr Smyth

             Plain Dealer Bureau


            -- Money from three Diebold executives began trickling into two Republican campaigns last August, just two months after the voting-machine maker banned political giving by a handful of its top brass.

             Mike Jacobsen, a spokesman for the manufacturer based in Green, Ohio, expressed regret over the donations, which totaled $1,400 to U.S. Sen. Mike DeWine and state Sen. Kirk Schuring of Canton, according to campaign finance reports.

          •  All it took was 8 votes per precinct in Ohio (4.00)
            For Bush to prevail over Kerry.

            Are you familiar with the Conyers report "What Went Wrong In Ohio"? From the Executive Summary:

            We have found numerous, serious election irregularities in the Ohio Presidential election, which resulted in a significant disenfranchisement of voters. Cumulatively, these irregularities, which affected hundreds of thousand of votes and voters in Ohio, raise grave doubts regarding whether it can be said the Ohio electors selected on December 13, 2004, were chosen in a manner that conforms to Ohio law, let alone federal requirements and constitutional standards.
            With regards to our factual finding, in brief, we find that there were massive and unprecedented voter irregularities and anomalies in Ohio. In many cases these irregularities were caused by intentional misconduct and illegal behavior, much of it involving Secretary of State J. Kenneth Blackwell, the co-chair of the Bush-Cheney campaign in Ohio.

            First, in the run up to election day, the following actions by Mr. Blackwell, the Republican Party and election officials disenfranchised hundreds of thousands of Ohio citizens, predominantly minority and Democratic voters:

            • The misallocation of voting machines led to unprecedented long lines that disenfranchised scores, if not hundreds of thousands, of predominantly minority and Democratic voters. This was illustrated by the fact that the Washington Post reported that in Franklin County, "27 of the 30 wards with the most machines per registered voter showed majorities for Bush. At the other end of the spectrum, six of the seven wards with the fewest machines delivered large margins for Kerry." Among other things, the conscious failure to provide sufficient voting machinery violates the Ohio Revised Code which requires the Boards of Elections to "provide adequate facilities at each polling place for conducting the election."

            • Mr. Blackwell's decision to restrict provisional ballots resulted in the disenfranchisement of tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of voters, again predominantly minority and Democratic voters. Mr. Blackwell's decision departed from past Ohio law on provisional ballots, and there is no evidence that a broader construction would have led to any significant disruption at the polling places, and did not do so in other states.

            • Mr. Blackwell's widely reviled decision to reject voter registration applications based on paper weight may have resulted in thousands of new voters not being registered in time for the 2004 election.

            • The Ohio Republican Party's decision to engage in preelection "caging" tactics, selectively targeting 35,000 predominantly minority voters for intimidation had a negative impact on voter turnout. The Third Circuit found these activities to be illegal and in direct violation of consent decrees barring the Republican Party from targeting minority voters for poll challenges.

            • The Ohio Republican Party's decision to utilize thousands of partisan challengers concentrated in minority and Democratic areas likely disenfranchised tens of thousands of legal voters, who were not only intimidated, but became discouraged by the long lines. Shockingly, these disruptions were publicly predicted and acknowledged by Republican officials: Mark Weaver, a lawyer for the Ohio Republican Party, admitted the challenges "can't help but create chaos, longer lines and frustration."

            • Mr. Blackwell's decision to prevent voters who requested absentee ballots but did not receive them on a timely basis from being able to  eceive provisional ballots likely disenfranchised thousands, if not tens of thousands, of voters, particularly seniors. A federal court found Mr. Blackwell's order to be illegal and in violation of HAVA.

            Second, on election day, there were numerous unexplained anomalies and irregularities involving hundreds of thousands of votes that have yet to be accounted for:
            • There were widespread instances of intimidation and misinformation in violation of the Voting Rights Act, the Civil Rights Act of 1968, Equal Protection, Due Process and the Ohio right to vote. Mr. Blackwell's apparent failure to institute a single investigation into these many serious allegations represents a violation of his statutory duty under Ohio law to investigate election irregularities.

            • We learned of improper purging and other registration errors by election officials that likely disenfranchised tens of thousands of voters statewide. The Greater Cleveland Voter Registration Coalition projects that in Cuyahoga County alone over 10,000 Ohio citizens lost their right to vote as a result of official registration errors.

            • There were 93,000 spoiled ballots where novote was cast for president, the vast majority of which have yet to be inspected. The problem was particularly acute in two precincts in Montgomery County which had an undervote rate of over 25% each - accounting for nearly 6,000 voters who stood in line to vote, but purportedly declined to vote for president.

            • There were numerous, significant unexplained irregularities in other counties throughout the state: (i) in Mahoning county at least 25 electronic machines transferred an unknown number of Kerry votes to the Bush column; (ii)Warren County locked out public observers from vote counting citing an FBI warning about a potential terrorist threat, yet the FBI states that it issued no such warning; (iii) the voting records of Perry county show significantly more votes than voters in some precincts, significantly less ballots than voters in other precincts, and voters casting more than one ballot; (iv) in Butler county a down ballot an underfunded Democratic State Supreme Court candidate implausibly received more votes than the best funded Democratic Presidential candidate in history; (v) in Cuyahoga county, poll worker error may have led to little known third party candidates receiving twenty times more votes than such candidates had ever received in otherwise reliably Democratic leaning areas; (vi) in Miami county, voter turnout was an improbable and highly suspect 98.55 percent, and after 100 percent of the precincts were reported, an additional 19,000 extra votes were recorded for President Bush.

            Third, in the post-election period we learned of numerous irregularities in tallying provisional ballots and conducting and completing the recount that disenfanchised thousands of voters and call the entire recount procedure into question (as of this date the recount is still not complete):
            • Mr. Blackwell's failure to articulate clear and consistent standards for the counting of provisional ballots resulted in the loss of thousands of predominantly minority votes. In Cuyahoga County alone, the lack of guidance and the ultimate narrow and arbitrary review standards significantly contributed to the fact that 8,099 out of 24,472 provisional ballots were ruled invalid, the highest proportion in the state.

            • Mr. Blackwell's failure to issue specific standards for the recount contributed to a lack of uniformity in violation of both the Due Process Clause and the Equal Protection Clauses. We found innumerable irregularities in the recount in violation of Ohio law, including (i) counties which did not randomly select the precinct samples; (ii) counties which did not conduct a full hand court after the 3% hand and machine counts did not match; (iii) counties which allowed for irregular marking of ballots and failed to secure and store ballots and machinery; and (iv) counties which prevented witnesses for candidates from observing the various aspects of the recount.

            • The voting computer company Triad has essentially admitted that it engaged in a course of behavior during the recount in numerous counties to provide "cheat sheets" to those counting the ballots. The cheat sheets informed election officials how many votes they should find for each candidate, and how many over and under votes they should calculate to match the machine count. In that way, they could avoid doing a full county-wide hand recount mandated by state law.

          The report is here

          Diebold has consistently refused to allow independent third party inspections of its machines, to the point of stating it would not sell its machines in North Carolina if it was forced to do so. To me this is red flag.

          This bill was voted out of committee on a pary line, with no Democrats voting for it. To me this is a red flag.

          If we don't fight for cleaner elections, especially in swing states, any other fighting we do is pointless. If you don't want to fight, to yell, to keep this in public view, to hold politicans feet to the fire until there is positive action, than don't put down those of us who do.

          When the recounts done long after the inauguration in 2000 show Bush lost Florida, when the Conyer report about Ohio in 2004 shows Bush very likely lost Ohio as well, we need to scream as loud as we can until we are heard, until this cause is taken up by the press and action is taken.

          Over 2000 American families are mourning the loss of a loved one this Christmas because of those elections. Tell them you don't care about making sure DRE machines from Diebold or anyone else are accurate and secure. Tell them you don't care if voting machine company employees  posted cheat sheets on the wall to prevent recounts because as one such employee put it "'s just human error. The machine count is right...We're trying to give them as much information to help them out."

"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about the things that matter." Dr. ML King, from a jail cell in Birmingham, Alabama in 1963.

by bewert on Sun Dec 11, 2005 at 10:32:41 AM PST

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  •  And, of course, this does not mean (none)
    we should not require that vote counts be verifiable and unhackable: trust but verify is the only Reagan policy that I can recall agreeing with. . Our responsibility is to ensure that national and state laws do not allow Diebold or other corporations to "privatize" the elections of our country.  We cannot let anyone install equipment that COULD be used by unscrupulous officials--or businessmen, there are a few out there--to steal an election. Allowing the current state of affairs to continue, I think most citizens would agree, would be tantamount to supporting fascism here and in any other country.

    Hence, the need to air these issues--even when information is wrong--so that the truth can be parceled out, as is the case with many other important issues presented on DKos. So let the discussions, investigation, reporting on lawsuits, and dissemination of information (as on this diary) continue--but hopefully taking the latest inflammatory statements from elsewhere with the proper grains of salt, and with respect from those who see the need for high standards of analysis.

    Let's always qualify our claims before certainty is with us; use words like "possible," or "can anyone confirm," in the diaries; perhaps form an election reform group that reviews election diaries for high standards--and point this out to those who too quickly dismiss the validity of these diaries prior to a discussion of the latest information contained in them.

    Would the Gannongate affair have been fleshed out (!) without tolerating more than a few wild hypotheses? The trust between the posters allowed for the critical (in its positive sense) evaluation of information and speculation in a general mood of friendly cooperation.

    That mood is missing here and in other similar diaries, perhaps because the anger we feel at voter suppression/broken election systems is aimed at anyone who begins to inspect the information that is being shared; similarly, questioning the intelligence and methods of the diarists is not the way friends suggest improvements in the methods being used to analyze this serious problem.

    Let's be kossacks, and begin to kick butt on this issue!

    Novus Ordo Seclorum. Since 1776.

    by Ignacio Magaloni on Sun Dec 11, 2005 at 11:54:23 AM PST

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  •  OK, I looked at the realclearpolitics polls (4.00)
    And I do not agree that these figures prove your point.

    Where are the undecideds in these polls?

    What is the margin of error in these opinion polls?  I am sure that in many cases it is equal to or greater than the few points spread between the two candidates.

    Were these telephone polls and thus did they leave out the no-landline public?

    What the realclearpolitics figures say to me is:  too close to call.  Which I believe is what the general consensus was among analysts at the time.

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