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  •  overwhelming (none)
    That's a lot of rambling material to read, just to get to some simple questions. I'll try to finish those articles later.

    Users are trusted to hide objectionable comments by using the ratings system, and they do an exceptional job.

    How do you know they do an exceptional job if they are not visible to you after they have been hidden?

    I still can't shape the deeper objection that the whole ratings system seems to be about laziness. Rather than for deciding for yourself, you "trust" other people to presumably think like yourself. If you have such trust that anything you don't like will be hidden, doesn't that narrow the range of opinion and encourage groupthink?

    your reply raises even bigger questions for me. How useful can this system be, if i have to read through pages of FAQs and arguments on Kos, just to try and grasp how it works? It all seems like an insane bureacracy.

    How are you to attract more members, especially from the general public, if even an internet verteran like myself has to do two hours of research, just  to figure out what's going on with the moderation system?

    Personally, I'd rather discuss issues of relevance to the progressive community.

    •  I have a great affection... (none)
      for American Motors cars.

      After I decide your comment is no longer worth seeing, it is hidden from me.  Responsibility.  It is no trivial thing to doll the trolls.  As a general rule I prefer a battle of wits.

      "I still can't shape the deeper objection that the whole ratings system seems to be about laziness. Rather than for deciding for yourself, you 'trust' other people to presumably think like yourself. If you have such trust that anything you don't like will be hidden, doesn't that narrow the range of opinion and encourage groupthink?"

      Trust people?  Yeah well, about as far as I can throw them.  And after months of posting I can see what I was missing and if it all disappeared tomorrow I would miss it- not at all.

      "Narrow the range of opinion".  Well it is a Democratic site, dedicated to the election of Democrats.  Try supporting Lieberman or Hillary, but only if you want to be troll rated out of existence.

      And what is existence?  You can still diary and comment.  The only thing you miss is seeing comments of the 'fuck you' variety, and if you're nostalgic for that visit any post by Armando or Maryscott OConner.

      Are we all trying to achieve?  I would hope we are.  Lots of eyeballs on the page after all.

      Pages of FAQs?  Man, it takes 8 hours to ramp up a  n00b for level 1 of D&D.  Don't get me wrong, I think this site does a poor job of educating and I do what I can.

      More members?  50% + 1 I hope (there is that tricky electoral college thing).  Including you!

      Welcome to the nudist colony, or the White Rose, whatever.

      •  Thanks (none)
        Thanks for indulging me with a reply. I mean that. I'll think about it. I find some of your post a bit cryptic, but it may get clearer with a bit of sleep.

        As for the FAQ bit, I meant trying to get a more complete picture of the moderation politics, not just the mechanics of it.

        Kos has been very good to me so far. The moderation may be well worth it if it does only filter out the truly malicious responses. I just get an uneasy sense based on my past experiences of moderation in communities.

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