Skip to main content

View Diary: Energize America - A Blueprint for U.S. Energy Security (Fourth Draft) (311 comments)

Comment Preferences

  •  Agreed ... but ... and ... (none)
    I agree with you about distributed power ... about enabling local and residential power ...

    On the other hand, while each of the authors has their own idealism, there is also a serious desire to put together a 'realistic' package that can create a significant momentum for major change in the nation's energy picture so that there is a stronger economy with a healthier environment (both locally and globally).  The idea of cutting off utilities as an objective seems the type of idealistic approach that could eliminate real potential partners for moving this forward.  

    Now, I would agree that there is not enough discussion of the value of distributed power as (a) efficiency path (lower electrical loss) and (b) security measure (against disruption by man-made or natural disaster).

    Now what there is, re home wind, that you are not giving credit for are the rule sets for enabling residences to sell power back into the grid.

    But, in the end, I think that you are right that we need to figure out how to add incentives for wind and other non-solar renewable power projects that could be executed by homeowners and/or small businesses.  I track wind power developments and it seems that the developing technologies are pushing the envelope as to where and when wind power generation makes sense.  (There are developing roof top and micro wind that could make sense for homes.)

    I will retake a look at wind and perhaps advocate further in our group discussions for more inclusion of it (and other non-Solar) in the plan somehow.

    9/11/05, Day 1469, A count worth keeping? Or, Osama Bin Forgotten?

    by besieged by bush on Tue Dec 13, 2005 at 06:54:47 PM PST

    [ Parent ]

    •  It's not just wind for electricity (none)
      The ability to pump water from underground through a house to keep the house at underground water temperature is very viable.  It takes little energy to raise 55 degree water to 68 or 70 to make a house very comfortable.

      A little solar heat in the winter can raise water temperature very efficiently.

      Once you heat and cool a house you have basically taken care of most of the energy demands.

      •  Geothermal ... (none)
        Geothermal heat pumps are great ... and one can do that, certainly, with wind power.  (Although, I might use the wind for electicity which is fungible -- and could do heat pump or other things.

        Re how hot you want the water for heating the house, looking at radiant heating sites / material, 70 degree water just doesn't do it with current paths.  You really are looking toward something at least 15 to 20 degrees warmer (at minimum).  

        These are interesting ideas and approaches that have valuable applications, but not in the mass of residential environments.  Although, again, geothermal is a vastly underused heating / cooling path around the nation.

        9/11/05, Day 1469, A count worth keeping? Or, Osama Bin Forgotten?

        by besieged by bush on Fri Dec 16, 2005 at 09:14:32 AM PST

        [ Parent ]

Subscribe or Donate to support Daily Kos.

Click here for the mobile view of the site