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  •  Might I ask (2.50)
    what your definition of Democracy is if not allowing a people to choose their destiny, which is what looks like is happening?  Can't we at least wait and see the results (that, despite all the predictions, were achieved with almost NO loss of life on election day) before we criticize?  The purple finger may be only a symbol, but the actuality of voting is an incontrevertible fact, not rhetoric.

    "Can all the purple fingers in Iraq solve the question of Shiite, Sunni, and Kurdish integration? Given the level of distrust, violence, and hatred we've seen thus far, I'd say not yet."

    Not yet, but maybe next month or next year.  No one knows if or when we will suceed, but what are people's definitons of victory if a non-violent election with high voter turnout among all ethnic and/or religous groups is not a huge step in the right direction.  What can we possibly want for Iraq that this remarkable election can't be considered (at face value) a success or at the very least a step towards normalcy?  My signoff actually applies quite well...

    The probability that we may fail in the struggle ought not to deter us from the support of a cause we believe to be just. 0.0, -1.74

    by Trinitrotoluene on Thu Dec 15, 2005 at 11:44:12 AM PST

    •  Pleez, knock it off (none)
      Your comment starts out dishonest and doesn't get better from there.

      Retract this statement or no one will take you seriously:

      Can't we at least wait and see the results (that, despite all the predictions, were achieved with almost NO loss of life on election day) before we criticize?

      Almost everyone predicted the elections to go exactly as they went today.  So either you haven't been paying attention, which is forgivable, or you are prevaricating.

      Which is it?

      Anything's possible with Commander Cuckoo Bananas in charge. -Homer J. Simpson

      by Cheez Whiz on Thu Dec 15, 2005 at 11:47:06 AM PST

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      •  See below (none)
        I address this in another post, but please can we keep this debate to my comment's thread and not other people's?

        The probability that we may fail in the struggle ought not to deter us from the support of a cause we believe to be just. 0.0, -1.74

        by Trinitrotoluene on Thu Dec 15, 2005 at 11:59:56 AM PST

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    •  What in this 'cause' is just? (none)
      We attacked a weaker country, which had done nothing aggressive against us.  We did this despite knowing where the actual perpetrators of 9/11 were.  AND, we let the real perp's get away while focusing on this neocon distraction in Iraq.

      So I ask, what in this cause do you consider just?

      "Whatever they want the answer is no. Now is not the time to fold, now is the time to up the ante." -- Charles Pierce

      by baba durag on Thu Dec 15, 2005 at 12:01:31 PM PST

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