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  •  Sold my soul to the company store (4.00)
    The disaster relief money is funded by revenues from ANWR.  The immediate money was characterized by Stevens today as an "advance".

    Louisianans need to tell Landrieu the money should not be contingent.  So they get an advance, what happens if the revenue doesn't materialize the way that was projected?  Does Louisiana have to pay it back? Have it taken out of other funds?  Have it dry up after the first few advances?  

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    by sberel on Tue Dec 20, 2005 at 05:14:32 PM PST

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    •  It's a bribe, pure and simple. (3.66)
      Buying votes.

      The Arctic Refuge belongs to ALL Americans, and is not for sale.

      Congress can easily pass a separate bill giving Louisiana (and Mississippi and Alabama) all the money they need for hurricane relief. And they should.

      But not in this bill, and not at the cost of a National Wildlife Refuge.

      Resist much, obey little. ~~Edward Abbey, via Walt Whitman

      by willyr on Tue Dec 20, 2005 at 05:21:28 PM PST

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    •  Bait-and-switch - no actual funding likely... (4.00)
      ...from this source.  I heard a Senator on the floor today talk about this, a male whose name I didn't get 'cuz I was listening to C-SPAN2 from the next room.  Here's the story:

      ANWR royalties, split 50-50 with the state of Alaska in this case.  The non-Alaska 50 percent to go for Katrina relief.  (And for LIHEAP = Low Income Heating and Energy Assistance Program, something like that.)

      But here's the rub:  Alaska Statehood Bill guaranteed the state 90% of royalties from all oil produced in the state.  (In the other 49 states, royalties for gas & oil are split 50-50 between the feds and the state.  Alaska is a special, exceptional case.)

      This bill makes an exception to that, but allows the state to "object" and thereby cancel the deal - keeping 90% of royalties for the state as per usual.  The state has already indicated that it will do exactly so.

      So, in other words, all this talk of funding for Katrina and LIHEAP is bogus.  The promised funds are not going to materialize.  It's empty talk.

      I can understand Stevens, and other right-wing types going along with this.  But what's the deal with Landrieu?  Why is she arguing for it if her state - which certainly needs & deserves relief funding - won't actually get funded from this bill?  Why is she going along with the charade?  Has no one in her office read the bill?  Hasn't anyone talked to her staff about this?  It's understandable that she's putting relief first.  But if I understand correctly, this isn't the way to do it.

      Also:  did anyone else catch that Senator's name on C-SPAN today?  I'd very much like to know his name.

      •  Remember Landrieu is from an oil state (none)
        so she has lots of backers in the oil industry.

        Funny thing is, lots of the oil companies who used to be hot to drill the Refuge have backed off in the last few years. It's really only politicos like Stevens who wants it so bad. It's money in the pocket for Alaskans (though many don't want to drill the Refuge either.)

        And of course it would be another ...uh..legacy..for Stevens. He's already got the damned Anchorage Airport named after him, and he isn't even dead yet!

        Resist much, obey little. ~~Edward Abbey, via Walt Whitman

        by willyr on Tue Dec 20, 2005 at 06:16:32 PM PST

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      •  dick durbin was the speaker (4.00)
        i heard him too. i didn't know about the 'bribing' by stevens to get votes.... and i also didn't know alaska's governor can stop the 50/50 steven's promise and make it 90/10.

        since it was durbin speaking about it, i'm guessing every Democratic senator will be reminded. maybe a few Republicans too.

        how slimy. what a horrible slimy little man Stevens is.

        The person who says it can't be done should not interrupt the person doing it. --Chinese proverb

        by isis2 on Tue Dec 20, 2005 at 07:01:29 PM PST

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        •  Thanks for filling in the name (none)
          He spoke very eloquently about it, an aspect I'd been previously unaware of.  And quite germaine to the issue at hand.  I don't get why Landrieu is ignoring this; her state - desperately in need of aid - is the one to be screwed royally by this bait & switch.

          Glad for the name, as I'm working on a piece for EPluribusMedia on this at this very momeent.

          Thanks again.

        •  Stevens, lying SOB (none)
          He was on this morning (I heard the rebroadcast last night).  He denied bribing anyone.  He went on and on about supporting hurricane relief and the low income heating program, because it was the right thing to do.  He must know the governor can rescind the royalty split, but he said nothing about.  It's incredible.

          John McCain's statement on the conference report is up.  He's got a list of the er, earmarks, that you may find useful for your piece.  Alaska does seem to be the beneficiary of a number of bequests as well.

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          by sberel on Tue Dec 20, 2005 at 07:38:57 PM PST

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