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  •  money, or blackmail? (3.83)
    I'd guess the latter.  If Powell were motivated by money, he wouldn't have done what he's done for a career.  I do believe the man is a patriot.  Just a stupid one.

    Why are there no dinosaurs in the Bible?

    by Leggy Starlitz on Tue Dec 27, 2005 at 06:13:38 AM PST

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    •  Leggy, yep (4.00)
      God knows what they have on all of them, thanks to their enabler, The New York Times for allowing Bush and Cheney to spy on Americans.

      Maybe they have something on Sulzberger and an orangutan.

      •  They don't need to have anything (none)
        on the leadership of the New York Times, which has exactly the same imperial ambitions as the Bushies.  Money.  Power.  Money.  Power.  Rinse.  Repeat.
        •  Typing in bed is dangerous.... (none)
          this was posted in the wrong place originally.  
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          Lisa, how easy do you feel it would be for Sulzberger to become a Republican?  I don't think their values can be sold out but they do bargain for things enhancing their self esteem.  It's like provenance.  The fact that Sulzberger was asked, skyrockets his self esteem and he wants more Atlas boosters.

          In 2000, I heard Dana Milbank say, on Hardball, that the press didn't really like Al Gore because Gore thinks he's better than they are.  He added, on the other hand, they like George W. Bush because he acts like them while he most probably IS better than members of the press, whatever "better" means.

          It's not money, it's knowing how to get to people and enabling their egos to soar or maybe it just is blackmail.  I have no doubts that blackmail is a regular form of legal tender in Washington, DC.

          •  cpa1: (none)
            I have zero inside info but my sense is that Sulzberger is as much a part of the Establishment as the Bushies and that most reporting at his paper that goes outside the lines is squashed, fast.  

            I know this sounds cynical but I think all members of the ruling class -- including the top newspapers, as well as many Dems in Congress -- are deeply invested in the idea of American empire.  They will chomp away around the edges of things but I don't get the feeling anyone with a stake in this economy would really tell it like it is (which is why people like John Conyers and Barbara Lee are howling into the wilderness, for the most part).  As for whether Punch could become a Republican, I would have to say that distinguishing between Republican oligarchs and Democratic oligarchs is really splitting hairs.

            What do you think?

            •  I think that someone has to grow up... (none)
              and face not only tomorrow's conspicuous consumptions but also the direction in which our country is going.  I see a long free fall.

              I think Tom Friedman's The World Is Flat is as important and as insightful to us as anything written by Keynes, Galbreath and even Adam Smith.  We need to see the assassination of our middle class by the third world and the attack on the growing poor class by companies like Wal-Mart.  

              We have to teach Americans that a 50% tax rate for the nation's wealthiest is a smart thing to do and we need more graduated rates.  We have to remember that this country was built on the taxes of EVERYONE and especially the wealthy.  We need to learn how SS & Medicare are a scam and a burden on the middle-class only.

              We have to teach Americans that the Republican Party is a party of the selfish and the hypocrites.  You have to be a grown up to do that and a person who is not willing to let their job in Washington take precedent over the welfare of the American people.

    •  He's no patriot (4.00)

      A patriot, a TRUE patriot is all about the Constitution and Bill of Rights.  You know, the ONLY things that a military person takes an oath to protect and defend.  There's nothing in the oath about "country" or "party".  Not a lick.  There is only an extended oath to protect and defend THE CONSTITUTION.

      Powell is one of those false patriots that thinks that it is Country above all else, as if this country would be worth a shit if it weren't for the Constitution and Bill of Rights in the first place.  Without those documents and fealty ONLY to those documents, then this country is just a bunch of assholes worth less than the crap that comes out my ass.

      Powell is no patriot.  He's an apologist for the very worst abuses our government has been and is guilty of (from Vietnam criminal acts to the numerous criminal acts of the Bush Administration).

      He should be denied any and all military honors and retirement benefits for his lifetime of ignoring the oath and substituting the false idol of Country for Constitution.

      "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people." --9th Amendment

      by praedor on Tue Dec 27, 2005 at 08:08:39 AM PST

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      •  Powell is a good soldier (none)
        His allegiance is to his superior in the Military and that includes, of course, the President.
        He might have made a very good Nazi.
        •  a good soldier (none)
          implies a selfless, mindless, programmable, future casualty. Not a man of Honor.
          •  Well... (none)

            I consider myself a good "patriotic" soldier then.  To ME a good soldier is not a roboton that follows any and all orders.  A good soldier knows that there are such things as illegal orders.  It is a good soldiers duty to disobey illegal orders and report said orders to the correct legal authorities.

            To ME a good soldier is one who actually takes the oath to heart and makes it a part of his or her being.  The oath, above all else, is what spells out a soldiers duty in the USA (or it is supposed to).  I WILL protect and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign or domestic.  I expect the same from any and all soldiers that work under me or next to me or have leadership over me.  If they do NOT take this oath to heart and mean it, or if they tolerate violations of this oath from those around them, they are not good soldiers, they are traitors and moral cowards.  Powell is the latter.  I spit on him and his "service" because he has long forgotten (and apparently never actually accepted) the oath.

            "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people." --9th Amendment

            by praedor on Thu Dec 29, 2005 at 06:25:44 AM PST

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    •  Cyber Break-In at the Watergate Hotel Redux (4.00)
      Were any candidates under surveillance? We know Cheney's people were intercepting staff email. Were they doing dirty tricks, blackmailing Democrats to sign confidentiality agreements?

      "Republicans hate the French Revolution, and everything it stands for; Liberty, Equality, Fraternity, but they love the Guillotine.

      by agent double o soul on Tue Dec 27, 2005 at 09:16:35 AM PST

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