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  •  Right (none)
    But can they without a warrant? If they didn't seek a warrant until months later (as the article suggests), how was it conducted? One possibility is the NSA program, although another agency operating outside of FISA could well have been the culprit.

    Alternatively, the government could have suspected him by association through phone records or financial records. Something outside of surveillance altogether. Either way, his defense deserves to know the details.

    'You can't begin to imagine how effective the Big Lie is.' N. Mailer 'TNatD'

    by jorndorff on Tue Dec 27, 2005 at 08:03:54 PM PST

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    •  True, but according to your (none)
      information, much of this happened before 9/11. If I remember, Bush was too busy on his vacations to be ordering wiretaps. Hey, wasn't it Able Danger that was snooping around back then?
      •  Maybe, maybe not (none)
        It well have been based on the expedited analysis of intel shortly after 9/11. Just because the FBI was at his door days afterwards doesn't mean necessarily that the FBI or any other agency were watching him beforehand. There are, as I noted, alternative means for suspecting someone of questionable ties.

        A program like Able Danger is another possibility, which would again get into a very sketchy area of warrantless surveillance.

        'You can't begin to imagine how effective the Big Lie is.' N. Mailer 'TNatD'

        by jorndorff on Wed Dec 28, 2005 at 04:43:20 AM PST

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