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  •  choices (none)
    I think it comes down to choices.  If you feel that Kerry is the right choice for change in the country, then that is the way you should vote.  If you are happy with things as they are you should vote for Bush.  If you think that two ideologically driven parties can't possibly represent the entire population, then you should consider voting for a third party.  Nader is easy to scapegoat for the 2000 election.  You forget that Gore didn't even win his home state.  Even Mondale won Minnesota in 1984(it was the only state he won).  A lot of people blame Perot for costing Bush 1 the election in 1992.  The point is, people vote, and people decide, who the right candidate is.  The fact that so many die hard Democrats so viciously attack a man that has done alot of good for ordinary Americans, turns many voters off.  I will vote for Edwards in the Maryland primary on Tuesday, but if Kerry wins the nomination, I will vote for Nadar in November.  If that makes people mad, so be it.  Their needs to be real change, not just a swap of Presidents.  
    •  I don't get positions like this: (none)
      I will vote for Edwards in the Maryland primary on Tuesday, but if Kerry wins the nomination, I will vote for Nadar in November.  

      How is Edwards preferable to Kerry?  His voting record is more conservative then Kerry's.  He is unapologetic about his Iraq vote (whereas Kerry at least attempts to find a middle ground between GWB and the anti-war argument, and has yet to realize that there wasn't any), Edwards would be as warmly embraced by the Party elite/insiders if he won the nomination as will Kerry, and he will be handicapped in the general by his decision to accept matching funds (of course without those matching funds, he would have been out of the race before Iowa).  Even if there is the political calculation in your primary vote that Edwards will run better against GWB than Kerry, what is the rationale for switching to Nader in the general?
      Many of us may not like the degree to which Kerry has become more aligned with the DLC argument.  But Edwards has never been anything but.  And there is nothing in Edwards' history to suggest that had he spent the past twenty years in public office that he would be any "cleaner" than Kerry is today.
      If I could vote for Edwards in the primary, I wouldn't have any trouble voting for Kerry against GWB.  But Edwards to Nader?  That's even less rational to me than Buchanen to Nader.  

      •  Probably a Deaniac... (none)
        Kerry played dirty to take our guy down, and we have a special hate on for him.  If that IS the case, time may soften that position.
        •  Not a very good one then. (none)
          A committed Dean supporter should be indifferent to the Kerry/Edwards contest.  Neither were acceptable.  Revenge is a stupid emotion if it hurts an innocent party or rewards an undeserving one.  Vote Dean and at least register your first choice.  Then tomorrow, when the Nominee has been selected (assuming there is any possibility that Edwards even has a chance at the damn thing) and the primaries are over, figure out what you're going to do in the general election.

          The defectors from Dean have now insured that Dean isn't given a decent seat at the convention.  Although McAuliffe will play nice and try to pander to the defectors and the ones who refused to budge.  The defectors have also let it be known that their commitment to any candidate is shallow and by Nov. Kerry will be okay for them.

    •  Nader over Kerry? (none)
      I will vote for Edwards in the Maryland primary on Tuesday, but if Kerry wins the nomination, I will vote for Nadar in November.  If that makes people mad, so be it.  Their needs to be real change, not just a swap of Presidents.

      Your vote is yours to make. If you really believe that casting a vote for Nader in a swing state in November is going to effect "real change," I'm sure there's no rational argument that can convince you otherwise.

    •  Go for it (none)
      Your vote is yours to wield as you will. i'll just have to be out there persuading more people to vote for Kerry as a Candidate who can win and govern with decency. Statements like yours should make it easier to motivate voters to get out there and vote.

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