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  •  I don't count myself (none)
    as one who gives worth to the idol of framing. It's part of the mix like anything else. Like it or not, a voter's choice is hugely affected by their impression of someone.

    Kerry seemed wishy-washy and contrived. A typical Democratic failure, as you rightly point out, is that they rely on framing as a primary consideration, rather than their own conscience and caring.

    This points to a dreadful fact: too many Dems in office aren't really motivated by anything particularly wholesome, and not really the public good. Good framing will automatically flow from a principled, coherent, adult-like stance about the omni-directional disaster that is Republican Rule.

    •  Yes - Principles before frames (none)
      I actually went ahead and read Lakoff's Don't Think of an Elephant the other day.

      One point he drives home is that before you can frame something, you have to be really clear on your identity, your principles, and your policy directions. And Lakoff points out that the Repubs have been honing their frames for 30 - 40 years.

      So tell me, how does "We can do better" reflect the identity of the Democratic party? Unfortunately, I think interpretation #1 more accurately defines the Democrats of today. Even interpretation #2 stinks.

      1. "We can do [perhaps a little] better [maybe?]"
      2. "We can do [sooooo much] better"

      My proposal: Fitzgerald said "truth is not just a component of our judicial system, the truth is the ENGINE of our judicial system."

      I say ours should be "justice, and the rule of law, are not just components of our Democracy, justice is the ENGINE of our Democracy." It needs work, but that's where I'm at right now.

       

      •  30 - 40 years! (none)
        That's key. When the message gets there real principles flow through frames etc with ease.

        How does "We can do better" reflect the identity of the Democratic party?

        I hear: I can do better with Democrats because justice is the ENGINE of our Democracy.

        But I come pre-framed. I know Democrats are all about justice.

        the Wolf Brigade appears to be more of a public relations ploy

        by hhex65 on Sun Jan 08, 2006 at 02:02:38 AM PST

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