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  •  "Extreme" (none)
    would be my reference (however inept) to the trailblazers.  Steinem comes to mind as "extreme" but I don't mean it in a negative sense.
    •  I'm underwhelmed (none)
      by this explanation.

      Perhaps some mighty victory is growing in you now. - Mike Finley

      by hrh on Mon Jan 09, 2006 at 08:19:58 PM PST

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    •  How was Steinem "extreme"? (4.00)
      She faced the issues head-on.

      Friedan wasn't extreme either--ehard her speak; she was everyone's slightly frunmpy but warm aunt.  BOTHliked men.  Friedan even urged the REAL extemists (Andrea Dworjkin and Catherine mCKinnon--or isit Cathleen?) to realize that to change the world, men HAD to beinvolved (books was The Second Wave published in the 80s).  

      If you want extremsits look at Dworkin whsoe rhetoric is ALWAYS over-the-top (whichmeans great, if stupid, sound bites, so she gets attention), who has basically said all sexis rape unelss initiated by the woman, who tried to get a law passe dthat would allow rape victims to sue producers of adutl films if the films were found nt he rpaists posession (even if it was non-violent, consensual, albeit tacky, sex being priotrayed.  

      The FOunding Mothers were pretty sensible, feet-m-the-ground types.

      And I will lawys love Steinem for saying "If men couldmestruate, tampns would be free and having your period would be a plus fator--and abortionw ould be a sacrament."

      The last time we mixed religion and politics people got burned at the stake.

      by irishwitch on Mon Jan 09, 2006 at 09:13:17 PM PST

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      •  Mary Daly could be considered "extreme" (none)
        by some.  When she came to my (women's) college to give a talk, she made all the men sit in the back of the auditorium and wouldn't take their questions.  They had to ask women to ask their questions for them.

        I thought she was a crazy extremist weirdo at the time, but after reading all of her excellent books, I now realize she was - and is - brilliant, courageous and FUNNY.  I love her wordplay.

        Perhaps some mighty victory is growing in you now. - Mike Finley

        by hrh on Mon Jan 09, 2006 at 09:55:58 PM PST

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