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  •  Welcome back New (4.00)
    York Times.

    "He that sees but does not bear witness, be accursed" Book of Jubilees

    by Lying eyes on Sat Jan 14, 2006 at 08:15:12 PM PST

    •  yeah, but... (none)
      On the cover of the same Times is the headline summary:

      "Democrats say President Bush is putting an enduring conservative imprint on the courts, and they see little hope of turning the tide."

      The Times proclaiming the Alito nomination a done deal provides no political options for democrats who might be considering a fillibuster.  The newspaper saying in effect "it's done" makes it that much closer to being so.

      •  but also... (none)
        If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck...

        If you look at it realistically, the odds of getting 41 out of 44 Democratic Senators to vote against cloture are pretty low.  Yes, it's possible but very unlikely.  And the Times is right in reporting the reality of it.

        And I honestly don't think an article pointing that out, even in the so-called "paper of record," is going to make much difference in a Senator's decision.

        "Whatever you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." -Gandhi

        by midvalley on Sat Jan 14, 2006 at 08:51:57 PM PST

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      •  Oh, it's Adam Nagourney (none)
        His brown-nosing head's so far up Bush's ass the pReznit brushes Nagourney's teeth with his own.
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        If conservatives are today's mainstream, why all the weaseling? Anyone? Bueller? scAlito?

        by Peanut on Sat Jan 14, 2006 at 10:23:24 PM PST

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      •  Agree (none)
        We should ALL write to NYT and to the Dems.  I started writing at 5:00 a.m., and I'm not finished.  Join me!  As I've been saying, this is MORE THAN abortion.  If he gets in, then we all need to make mass exit for Canada or South America.  I'm seriously considering it too... seriously!
    •  Too little, too late. (4.00)
      This article in the NYT is way too little and way too late.  Had they brouight this out months ago and hammered on it over and over, and not done all the Alita cheerleading stories, then we might have had some traction in stopping Alito, but now, now that they know good and well it's too late to make any difference, now, frankly, I don't give a damn.  Too little, too late.

      It's claear the traditional media, for whatevr reason, far from preventing the worst political excesses is going to conspire with those committing them to defraud the people of the United States.  Well, they can print anything they want, but don't expect us to do anything but criticize them and try to tear them down.

      And no, saying that other media outlets didn't even do this much is not an excuse.  That just means that now that it doesn't matter the Republican party gave you the go ahead so you could appear less partisan.

      •  Worked for Roberts, scAlito's not a done deal (none)
        He was caught lying during his hearing, and supports illegal spying on citizens by a prezi-monarch.
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        Even lockstepper GOP 'moderates' are queasy about rubber-stamping untrammeled spying without warrants on political opponents, and a judicial nominee who backs such a thing for an imperial president who has declared himself above the law.
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        If conservatives are today's mainstream, why all the weaseling? Anyone? Bueller? scAlito?

        by Peanut on Sat Jan 14, 2006 at 10:17:52 PM PST

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        •  I'd think that would make a difference (none)
          But it hasn't in the hearings so far.

          I think it's way too late.  The Republicans clearly are going to rubber-stamp this guy if they think they can get away with it (there may be some republicans voting against if they feel it won't matter).  The time to start a mass movement against Alito was when he was first proposed, and many of us tried to do just that, and some of the Democrats also tried to do that, but most of the democrats just ignored it and the papers kept spouting Rep8ublican talking points until now.

          The democrats may vote against him, but I doubt that most of them will have the guts to filibuster him, and the republicans won't.  The majority of US citizens seems divided at best because the media hasn't presented anything but republican talking points.

          When, not if, Alito gets in he's going to turn us into an empire with an emperor at the head.  The constitution will be ripped to shreds in short order and, among the many too blame, I will also lay the fault for this at the doorstep of the traditional media.

          •  There was more advance opposition to scAlito (none)
            than Roberts, so repeating a Roberts talking point doesn't really amount to much. Since idle speculation amounts to even less than much, I suggest joining what others or an alternate strategy here and here.
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            If conservatives are today's mainstream, why all the weaseling? Anyone? Bueller? scAlito?

            by Peanut on Sat Jan 14, 2006 at 11:17:40 PM PST

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          •  I really don't understand (none)
            how the Congress, and especially the Senate, could so easily relinquish their powers to check the actions of the Executive branch.

            You would think, if nothing else, their pride would keep them from confirming a justice who wants to take that power away from them.

            This is not even the "Law of Unintended Consequences" at work here.  The consequence of dimunition of the senate's power to stop executive action is right there in front of their faces.

            Are they nuts?  Blinded by partisan fervor?  I just don't get it.

            (-5.25, -7.95) "Self-respect is a question of recognizing that anything worth having has a price." - Joan Didion

            by SueDe on Sun Jan 15, 2006 at 04:41:10 AM PST

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      •  People who work in the MSM (none)
        will still be able to get abortions even if they have to travel
      •  Never too late (none)
        The NSA spying story ran the night before the Patriot Act extension vote.

        IT singlehandedly derailed that vote (not the Senate D's who new all about it).

        Same thing can happen here.

    •  It's NOT linked from the FRONT PAGE ... (none)
       ... of the NYT web site.  You have to click to go to Editorials and OpEd, and then it's listed as the second editorial of the day.

      This feels like lib-service.  GawdDAMM.

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      by Yellow Canary on Sun Jan 15, 2006 at 06:23:21 AM PST

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