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  •  Thanks!! (none)
    Thanks for the thoughtful reply! I agree with 95% of what u have said. The one pt. we differ on is the line they did it while we were asleep. No they didn't we weren't asleep that's the scary part. They did right in front of us in plain sight! The Nazis did it the same way. They could do this because they are manipulating the public in a very sophisticated manner and at levels of consciousness far beneath the publics waking consciousness. The Nazis did the same to the German public but it took generations to prepare the soil for such a thing to occur. America has always had a darkside  side to it we all know that. These people talk to that shadow in everyone of us the fear and the anger and they turn it to their advantage at every turn. We can only beat them the way MLK and Gandi proposed with a tough love that doesn't turn to violence. These folks are Nazis yet they can be turned. We have the examples of our South and So. Africa and The English in India etc. But, we have to start and that's the problem. How? They have closed almost every peaceful path available just as the Southerners  did to the blacks after the Civil War. They are locking all the doors to change because they HATE change and they fear it. They hate all of us because they know we are the agents of change. We need new ideas and methods to defeat this darkness that has grabbed our country by the throat.

    "It's better to die on your feet then live on your knees"

    by Blutodog on Sun Jan 15, 2006 at 03:51:01 PM PST

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    •  I agree with you, Blutodog... (none)
      As you probably know, I was speaking metaphorically about being asleep. What I failed to put across is that it is my feeling that our "sleeping" seems more treating the issue as if it is one of "just politics as usual" - "they're Repubs, we're Dems, this's just a political difference.

      I don't think it is political in the sense of "normal" party politics. I think it is the difference between What's-his-name, Winston?, the individual, the protagonist in 1984, and THE STATE - the difference being only one of time-frame. I think we are in a war against tyranny, against a growing if not fully-formed totalitarian state - a state which is already here before us, for all intents and purposes.

      Normal party politics, in my view, will not do the job of restoring our nation to its former character - the one we all remember. I do not mean to suggest open rebellion, I don't think that would work, but I am wondering if a change in tactics, away from the "politics as usual" mold, might better serve.

      As you can see, I am endeavoring to work through these "notions." I guess that make them "meta," eh?

      Thanks for your thoughtful comments.

      ONE-PARTY RULE is the first step toward TYRANNY

      by QuoVadis on Sun Jan 15, 2006 at 06:52:24 PM PST

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      •  Meta-politics (none)
        Grab the cult classix from the late 80's called Brazil with Robert Dinero among others. I think Brazil is a closer model to what were experiencing today. I agree that we are living in a tyranny one that  cultivates a facade of democractic order. The right now controls and even owns the election aparat in enough of the country to continue to fine tune this fraud. The good news is that a portion of the opposition (us)is starting to push back at this level and our Reps. atleast in the Blue states are responding by taking a real close look at these devices. It hasn't stopped their plan however and Ohio's recent laws are attempt at crushing any attempts to dislodge this creepy new system. The right wants a sure thing and it's hard to get closer then easily manipulated voting computers. That's just one way they intend to make sure they NEVER lose elections that count.

        "It's better to die on your feet then live on your knees"

        by Blutodog on Mon Jan 16, 2006 at 07:30:52 AM PST

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