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View Diary: AIPAC, Treason and Israel (38 comments)

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  •  Are you suggesting... (none)
    ...that Israel is the equivalent to the Soviet Union?  If not, why are you using the Ames comparison?
    •  The law doesn't distinguish... (none)
      ...between allegedly friendly and hostile recipients of classified information.  It doesn't grant the perpetrator the discretion to decide which countries are friendly and which are hostile.  The law prohibits the disclosure of classified information to any unauthorized recipient, and our espionage laws prohibit spying for ANY foreign government.  To base prosecution or sentencing decisions on the subjective evaluation of whether one foreign government is worse than another is to disregard the law altogether and substitute one's foreign policy judgments.

      You've got to be pretty stupid not to understand this.

      •  Well, I know I'm pretty stupid... (none)
        ...but of course, not so stupid as to say anything like what you're pretending I said.

        The diarist compared this case to the case of Aldrich Ames.  That was a moral, not a legal judgement.  And I have a question about that.  And the law does distinguish between espionage and treason.  But wherever you think I pretended that spying for some governments is okay, you weren't reading anything I wrote.

      •  Not true (none)
        Actually, that's completely false. Courts distinguish between passing information to friendly countries and passing information to hostile countries all the time. The reason that Jonathan Pollard is screaming about how unfair he thinks his sentence is is because the average sentence for someone who passes information to a friendly country is something like 2 years.* The average sentence for someone who passes information to an enemy is much higher. Obviously you're breaking the law one way or another, but clearly its different to pass along classified information when your intent is to help the United States by circumventing bureacracy than (in the case of Ames) when your intent is pure greed.

        *Personally I think that Pollard committed a crime and deserves to be punished. I'm disinclined to support him here because we really don't know the extent of his crime.

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