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  •  Different strokes for different folks (none)
    Why do I see intolerance of different views on this board?  Are we not Democrats?  Are we not the party of tolerance?

    The religious views professed by Glenn are not in odds with science.  Religion and science need not necessarily conflict.  Science doesn't answer the eternal questions.  It doesn't even try.

    For over 25 years, I have been a petroleum geologist.  Speak not to me of the history of this planet nor the origins of the universe.  We don't know what caused the Big Bang.  We probably never will.

    There is room for both faith and science in this life.

    You see what you want to see, and hear what you want to hear ... The Rockman

    by llad on Sat Jan 21, 2006 at 12:21:34 PM PST

    •  perhaps, but... (none)
      We probably never will.

      ...just a few hundred years ago, someone might have simlilarly said "we will never know the nature of the elements that compose the stars." Whoops, we figured that out. At the turn of the last century, one might have said "we will never know the nature of the force that transmits electricity." Whoops, we found the electron. The Big Bang is the same...just because we haven't figured it out yet dosen't mean we won't. In fact, i'd put my money on the fact that we will, and not too long from now.

      Your view is amazingly pessimistic. Science might not hold any authority over questions of meaning and purpose, but everything else falls well under its purview.

      •  Answers and Questions (none)
        We all would like to have all the anwswers or at least know someone who does.  I do not have them. I trust that at some point scientific discovery will expand our limited knowledge of the universe around us.

        Both it's origins and where it is going. Our origins and where we are headed. I admire the the scientists who work on projects like the Hubble telescope and the just launched mission to Pluto.  I find their work to be simply wonderful.

        I also admire my Pastor who works every day to soothe and comfort the frail humans in our church. I find his work none the less valuable than the scientists whom I admire.

        I wish we could all live long enough to have the answers to these questions that have puzzeled many of us.

        I fell no need to convert anyone, nor do I want scientists to stop searching for answers.  

        I would suggest we all learn to accept those around us and discontinue behaviors that are harmful to either our physical or spiritual selves.    

        I too would like very much to have all the answers to life's questions, but for now I had rather know my that my kid has a good chance at a great life.  

      •  In other words (none)
        You have FAITH that science will answer the question.

        Am I the only who sees the irony there....

        •  no (none)
          I only have faith in the sense that I believe the future will resemble the past. I cannot prove that science will make such a progression, but based on past observations I trust that it will. I do not believe this blindly. The two examples I have are only two among tens of thousands of examples I could have given, and this constitutes evidence for my claim. "Faith" would entail that I believe without true evidence, and that even if faced with directly contradictory evidence, I would stand my ground.
          •  I can just as easily frame it as (none)
            over the years, our understanding of the origins of the universe has gone farther and farther into the past. But, it has been at a decreasing rate, asymptotically approaching the ultimate origin. Thus, the future will bring us understanding of moments yet closer and closer to the Big Bang, but never actually understanding the ultimate genesis of the Universe itself.

            congratulations on your foreskin -- osteriser

            by bartman on Sun Jan 22, 2006 at 01:27:35 AM PST

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      •  Interesting ... (none)

        I would think realistic.  While I admire your optimism about our species' intellect, it is my firm belief that we are, at this time, far too tiny and far too puny to come to grips with said question in the forseeable future.  Besides, any such "answer" would probably just beg the question again.

        Call me an agnostic if you wish.  Call me whatever you desire.  When one can scientifically prove that "God" exists or doesn't exist, I'll be all ears.  Until then, faith and science have their place.

        You see what you want to see, and hear what you want to hear ... The Rockman

        by llad on Sat Jan 21, 2006 at 03:34:39 PM PST

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