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  •  They still don't get it (4.00)
    They still don't get Dean; even the old Dem Party apparatchiks don't.

    And they certainly don't get the premise that Deaniacs are all about real democratic process (little d).

    Some of the problems we face are that we must fight our own party, people who would deny even their own party members a seat at the table.

    And they still don't get the dynamics of the demographics that are Deaniacs; they characterize us as far-left radicals, but a substantial number of us in another earlier time would have been labeled Republicans.  Hell, some of us ARE Republicans -- and Greens and Libertarians and so on.  The only unifying thing they could wrap their minds around was Dean himself.

    But as Dean so often said, it wasn't about him, it was about us, WE have the power.  That's the part they don't grok.  We are intelligent (dare I say well-educated?), we are wired, we are self-motivated and self-empowered.  We don't subscribe to traditional hierarchical power or its structures; we are willing to get our hands dirty and dig in, we don't phone it in.

    That simply doesn't compute in their world.  And this is were we have a distinct advantage.  They really don't know how to fight us, are using only traditional approaches.

    F*ck 'em.  We can win this war if we play by our own rules.  We have the power, after all.

    •  participatory democracy, sds and the 60s is now (none)
      birthed in the civil rights movement of the 60s, SDS, (Students for a Democratic Society)  member Tom Hayden wrote the Port Huron Statement and detailed the concept of participatory democracy (http://coursesa.matrix.msu.edu/....  

      i see that concept finally taking shape in the blogosphere, especially communities like dailykos.

      •  Wow. In my backyard, too (none)
        Damn, this is good stuff.  I guess I'd forgotten about Hayden -- and this 1962 conference took place almost in my backyard, here in Michigan.

        I'm going to use this at the next local Dem Party meeting, remind them about the roots of this movement; we're getting one helluva lot of push back from guys who would have been contemporaries of Hayden's back in the day.

        Thanks!!

    •  A 4 for you (none)
      Because I love the word 'grok', especially in this context.

      The problem with America Today: There's a difference between The American Dream, and The American Way.

      by Disillusioned on Wed Jan 25, 2006 at 08:34:44 PM PST

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    •  yes, yes (none)
      A lot of people don't realize some of us (me particularly) Deaniacs  didn't always agree with Dean about some of his policies.  

      He was a lot more conservative than i am; but we knew he was honest and speaking the truth as he saw it. . . so there could be an honest dialog and compromise.

      He was one of the few  policians that I could say I trust.

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