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  •  Did you know (4.00)
    Not only is Iran developing nukes, but it has a workable plan to defeat the United States by attacking North America!???? Huh?

    The propaganda war started a few years ago. But It's getting a boost lately.


    Congress was warned of Iran's plans last month by Peter Pry, a senior staffer with the Commission to Assess the Threat to the United States from Electromagnetic Pulse Attack in a hearing of Sen. John Kyl's subcommittee on terrorism, technology and homeland security.

    In an article titled, "Electronics to Determine Fate of Future Wars," the journal explains how an EMP attack on America's electronic infrastructure, caused by the detonation of a nuclear weapon high above the U.S., would bring the country to its knees.

    So I know what you think. This is just some crazy evengelical idiot's daydream (Joseph Farah) and it would never find mainstream audience right?

    Just a few days ago, Frank Gaffny gave a speech to the Heritage foundation where James Woolsey also spoke where he repeated this allegation word for word and said he had included it in his new book where the terrifying predictoin of "bring America to it's knees" has mutated into this:


    There is reason to believe the Iranian regime is working toward a capability that could destroy America as we know it. A blue-ribbon commission's report to the Congress last year (http://empcreport.ida.org/) found a single nuclear weapon detonated in space high above the United States could unleash an immensely powerful electromagnetic pulse (EMP). An EMP wave a million times stronger than the most powerful radio transmitter would damage or destroy the electrical grid and unshielded electronic devices upon which our society utterly depends. The effect [dramatized in this short video] could be "catastrophic" -- possibly reducing America from a 21st century superpower to a pre-industrial society in the blink of an eye.

    When I read shit like this I realize how irrelevant truth, science and logic can really be in this country.

    Honestly MB. In a nation where still some 40% think Saddam was behind 9/11, what chance does the anti-war movement have against percision-targeted propaganda like this?

    (-9.13, -8.10) Political violence is a perfectly legitimate answer to the persecution handed down by dignitaries of the state. - Riven Turnbull

    by Florida Democrat on Wed Jan 25, 2006 at 11:55:21 PM PST

    •  The good news is that ... (none)
      ...the antiwar movement is always a minority of Americans. The bad news is that, in the past, some of the megamedia allowed its reporters to give the antiwar movement some positive attention.
    •  And I saw even 'Cakewalk' Ken Adelman on CNN (4.00)
      a week or so ago explaining to a very receptive and  unquestioning Wolf Blitzer the many reasons why it is desirable to immediately take action against Iran.

      Practically the identical  war-hype propaganda (just substituted Iran for Iraq) as the sleazy Ken Cakewalker was spewing [in his smiling laid-back way] on CNN and the other corporate cable FAKE News channels during the public hype-up to the US attack on Iraq:

      "Kenneth Adelman said these weapons are likeliest to be found near Tikrit and Baghdad, 'because they're the most protected places with the best troops. I have no doubt we're going to find big stores of weapons of mass destruction." (25)

      - "I believe that demolishing Hussein's military power and liberating Iraq would be a cakewalk . This President Bush does not need to amass rinky-dink nations as 'coalition partners' to convince the Washington establishment that we're right." (26)

      But the shameless tool Blitzer, whose routinely pulls out obscure  20 year old mis-quotes and out -of-context snippets, and use them  to play gotcha and to ambush Bush critics like Howard Dean, John Kerry, or Harry Bellafonte on his show,  didn't even seem to notice the parallels between neocon Adelman's dead-wrong earlier statements about Iraq,  nor point out the fact that Adelman was just recyling them now for Iran.

    •  Military Boy Scouts Are Already Prepared (none)
      Of course you're right about EMP caused by high altitude nuclear explosions.  But it's not as if there haven't been lots of them.

      During the heyday of above-ground nuclear testing there were plenty of high altitude/edge-of-space air bursts of enormous bombs.  You can watch them in a truly fascinating film called, Trinity and Beyond (The Atomic Bomb Movie).  The movie shows some spectacular full-on explosions at such high altitude that all you see is a giant super-bright sphere. Here is a taste of what it looks like.

      The power grid and the electronic infrastructure of then (1950s and 1960s) America survived just fine,  though the really high altitude tests were done at Johnston Island in the Western Pacific.

      The military has known about this since then and as a consequence, important military hardware -- including Air Force One -- is hardened to resist EMP.

      This aggression will not stand, man.

      by kaleidescope on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 08:24:19 AM PST

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