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  •  Psst: So is coastal Lousiana (none)
    (but don't tell anybody): Odd Reservoir Off Louisiana Prods Oil Experts to Seek a Deeper Meaning, and Raining hydrocarbons in the Gulf .

    Remember: There was no testable evidence of global oil shortages, and there were no high US gas prices UNTIL AFTER the Bushies stole power.  

    •  I'm not sure the point you are trying to make (none)
      Do you believe this is a manufactured shortage to drive prices and profits up?

      Do you believe, as this economists states in the article you link:

      Economics never hindered the theorists, however. One, Thomas Gold, a respected astronomer and professor emeritus at Cornell University in Ithaca, N.Y., has held for years that oil is actually a renewable, primordial syrup continually manufactured by the Earth under ultrahot conditions and tremendous pressures. As this substance migrates toward the surface, it is attacked by bacteria, making it appear to have an organic origin dating back to the dinosaurs, he says

      Wouldn't it be great if that were really the case!?

      •  no, it wouldn't (none)
        Even IF oil is "renewable", there are two problems. First, burning it STILL creates greenhouse gases, and second, it seems very unlikely that it renews at  anywhere near the rate we use it, considering we've blown through about half the known petroleum in the world in just one century.

        Two hundred years ago, the Founding Fathers left us a Constitution.  What will we be leaving our descendants in another two centuries?  Or twenty? Or two hundred?

        Ultimately, humanity WILL be living solely on renewable energy.  The question is, what standard of living will they have?

        Why are there no dinosaurs in the Bible?

        by Leggy Starlitz on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 11:09:19 AM PST

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        •  hemp (4.00)
          Two hundred years ago, the Founding Fathers left us a Constitution.  What will we be leaving our descendants in another two centuries?  Or twenty? Or two hundred?

          and that "goddamn piece of paper" was made of hemp, which should be one of many solutions.

          Republican politicians are not elephants. They're filthy, greedy pigs.

          by sadair on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 12:47:47 PM PST

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          •  the problem with hemp (none)
            While I'm a HUGE biomass proponent, talking hemp rather than biomass lets them marginalize you as a crazy hippie pothead, dismissing rather than challenging (or better yet, listening to) your argument. There are lots of good biomass sources other than hemp.

            The second problem is that most hemp proponents ARE hippie potheads looking for a legalization backdoor. I know, because I used to be one.

            Why are there no dinosaurs in the Bible?

            by Leggy Starlitz on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 01:52:38 PM PST

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          •  Sorry, nope. (none)
            From http://www.usconstitution.net/

            Urban legend is that the Constitution, Declaration of Independence, and Bill of Rights were written on hemp paper, hemp being the industrial name for the fiber of the marijuana plant. For some reason, this "fact" is touted by those who seek to legalize marijuana for recreational use. First, it is not clear why the use of hemp as a fiber should mean it should be legalized for recreational use. Second, the "fact" is not a fact.

            The Declaration, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights are currently housed in the National Archives. All three are written on parchment, not hemp paper. Parchment is treated animal skin, typically sheepskin. The Declaration was inked with iron gall ink.

            I don't like Bizarro World... I want to go home to America.

            by willers on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 08:39:47 PM PST

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      •  Tommy Gold - The Deep Hot Biosphere (Not!) (none)
        Wouldn't it be great if that were really the case!?

        Calling Tommy Gold a "respected astronomer and professor" is a bit of a stretch, given that he's no longer alive. He was a great guy - founded the field I work in, pretty much, and built up the Cornell astronomy department to be one of the very best. He came up with lots of ideas that were far out on the loony edge. Not a bad thing, mind you: he had lots of loony ideas and some of them panned out.  

        But in his old age, some of his loony ideas were flat out wrong. (He claimed that solar sails wouldn't work just as NASA - with one of his former students leading the team - successfully deployed one. That was embarassing for all of us.) And the "Deep Hot Biosphere" is one of those loony ideas... Not going to work, even if Tommy was very smart and always a great guy to chat with.
         

      •  Might be, but we don't have time for the refill (none)
        Oil Might well be a byproduct of the core doing its thing, but how long did it take to make the oil we're pumping right now? Yeah, the refill time is a tad longer than a presidential term.

        Oh how I wish we'd spent the Iraq money on a Manhattan Project for Super efficent goods (transporation, home appliances, electronics) Green Hydrogen, Wind and other renewables. The upside is we'd get to sell it to other countries AND get out of debt.

        Now that would be a legacy to shoot for.

        Garth H San Jose, CA Because being a Democrat doesn't mean you're weak.

        by webdev511 on Thu Jan 26, 2006 at 02:34:13 PM PST

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