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  •  I am just sick about this... (none)

    I am pretty darn frustrated--

    There are two Dems who have a right to oppose a filibuster:

    Nelson (NE)-- he's hanging on by a thread.

    Landrieau(LA)-- a filibuster could have stalled relief efforts.

    No one else is in a position where it will make a difference.  

    I agree the bigger mistake was keeping the powder dry on Roberts- who, as chief justice, is a bit of a double whammy (remember, Chief can decide who writes majority opinion- even in 9-0 cases where we all agree with the court, there is a difference between a Scalia majority opinion and a Souter opinion).

    Bush will be impeached.

    by jgkojak on Fri Jan 27, 2006 at 07:17:34 AM PST

    •  Landrieu. (4.00)
      The Katrina angle has long since gone stale. She's right in that a filibuster would have stalled relief efforts, but she's also a nomination too late to have had any influence in changing that.

      She should have filibustered the Roberts nomination, when the wounds of Katrina were still fresh, and no one could have doubted her sincerity (though they would have tried, certainly) in holding the nomination hostage in exchange for immediate and massive relief.

      Invoking it this time, especially as an excuse for inaction, rings hollow.

      She missed her window, and now she's irrelevant to the proceedings, irrelevant to the Gang of 14, and impotent with respect to moving the relief her state needs. She just has to stand there and take whatever crumbs she can gather.

    •  Landrieu had no right (4.00)
      Nelson is endangered, but if you think relief efforts would have been delayed, then (as Armando suggested, I believe) it should have been Landrieu's duty to suggest that relief be the first order of business and Alito the second.

      The long-term damage done to Lousiana and the rest of the nation by tipping the court right with Alito will put the devastation of Katrina to shame.

      Torture, spying on citizens, war on false pretenses. We're one long line for toilet paper away from becoming the USSR.

      by nightsweat on Fri Jan 27, 2006 at 07:31:49 AM PST

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    •  What? (4.00)
      Landrieu needs to learn from the past.  She sided with the Bush administration on Tax Cuts, Homeland security, etc, and they laid out everything to try to remove her in '02.  and she learned nothing. The more you play with the Republicans, the more they stab you in the back.  She'll get nothing for Louisiana because of this.  

      There are pressing things in this country that need to be dealt with.  This SCOTUS vacancy wasn't one of them.  

      Anyway, a filibuster wouldn't have necessarily "got in the way"  Frist could easily just put other business on the table.  Or, if the nuke option was used, then Dems "shut down" the Senate and bring up only the business we think is important, which is about the only way a decent Gulf Coast relief package gets before the senate.  

      Pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space because there's bugger all down here on Earth.

      by bawbie on Fri Jan 27, 2006 at 07:32:36 AM PST

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    •  "Stalling of relief efforts" (none)
      doesn't cut it to me. How relief can be stalled due to this is one more reason to vote "No" and filibuster an appointment by an incompentent administration who would further stall relief and screw NO anyway, let alone people from the REST of the country. BushCo has F'd New Orleans before, during, and since Katrina, so why would this change anything?

      Can anyone tell me why my American flag was made in China?

      by Skid on Fri Jan 27, 2006 at 07:34:12 AM PST

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    •  But I keep hearing they'll VOTE WITH DEMS (none)
      If they don't, why do people who doubt that they will keep getting bashed when we're right?
      And when Dems don't voluntarily get their act together, why do they CONTINUALLY BLAME, the people who support them the most, get their backs the most, fact check and watchdog their UNFAIR attackers the most and otherwise keep Dems in fucking business?
      I want to see this vaunted mainstream, socially acceptable support that has no special interest groups do the heavy lifting on their own while I sit back and see watch them trudge into power on that fuel while I toss frames at them.

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