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  •  I'm reading his speech right now (none)
    He was saying what he was saying, Armando, that's all.  Here's what you say you find appalling:

    Mr. Byrd said his constituents had told him they were "appalled" by the harsh questioning Judge Alito received from the Senate Judiciary Committee at his confirmation hearings, calling them "an outrage and a disgrace."

    1.  Now, if you read the speech, what he says about media coverage of the hearings and the circus atmosphere is just like the complaints I read on dKos as the hearings were taking place!  He specifically states that many complaints are coming from those who oppose Alito.  He never says anyone was appalled by the harsh questioning - that's the reporter talking - he says his constituents were appalled by the entire spectacle.

    "It is especially telling that many who objected to the way in which the Alito hearings were conducted do not support Judge Alito. In fact, it is sorely apparent that even many who oppose Judge Alito's nomination also oppose the seemingly 'made for TV' antics that accompanied the hearings."

    2.  I also note that he does criticize the GOP Senators for abdicating their responsibilities:

    "Yet, the Framers probably also would never have expected that a Senator of a nominee's own Party would refuse to ask the candidate meaningful questions. They certainly did not intend for Senators of the nominee's own Party to sit silently in quiet adulation, refusing to seek the truth while smiling indulgently, thus accomplishing nothing."

    3.  He specifically addresses Alito's views on the expansion of executive authority:

    "I also advised him of my view that the Executive branch is continually and improperly seeking to grab power, and that the separation of powers requires the judiciary to be ever-vigilant in stopping abuse of power by the President and protecting the powers of the other two branches.

    [..]

    In response, Judge Alito told me that he respected the separation of powers and would not rule in support of a power-hungry President. I liked that answer, and I liked Judge Alito. He struck me as a man of his word, and I intend to vote for him."

    I don't really know what else to say.  I take it your point is that Byrd is lying through his teeth, and my point is that I think Senator Byrd deserves respect from us, that we should take him at his word and disagree with it if we choose, not accuse him of being a liar and sophist.  That's ugly indeed.

    "If I wanted to break the law, why was I briefing Congress?"

    by daria g on Fri Jan 27, 2006 at 08:16:50 AM PST

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    •  I dunno guys (none)
      At heart here is an issue of respect and decorum, I think, showing respect for the Senator and respect for the process.  even though we disagree.

      If this doesn't make any sense.. well, it's no wonder we lose elections.

      "If I wanted to break the law, why was I briefing Congress?"

      by daria g on Fri Jan 27, 2006 at 08:27:58 AM PST

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      •  Respect? (none)
        As another poster said, the dems still think this is a garden party and are looking for their croquet mallets for a civilized game.

        Meanwhile, the republicans have knives, clubs, brass knuckles and guns and are continually using them.

        It doesn't do much good to be "polite" when you're made entirely politically irrelevant, and when your "politeness" paves the way for the destruction of the USA itself.

        "When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross" - Sinclair Lewis

        by Loboguara on Fri Jan 27, 2006 at 08:37:03 AM PST

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      •  You kid (none)
        My POINT is Byrd's UTTER LACK OF RESPECT for his colleagues!

        You get upset with me for being criticial of Byrd and you excuse his attack on Kennedy. Not by name of course, never that.

        The SCOTUS is extraordinary.

        by Armando on Fri Jan 27, 2006 at 09:14:34 AM PST

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