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  •  At this rate (4.00)
    I'd say the "public" will be as complacent as they have been about damn near everything else they've looked the other way from or didn't understand. Sucks, but when everything is presented to us via the media as a twisted form of the Miss America Pageant, this is what happens.

    Can anyone tell me why my American flag was made in China?

    by Skid on Fri Jan 27, 2006 at 01:25:47 PM PST

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    •  and that's why the Dems need to make noise (4.00)
      and get this into people's heads, right now.

      Even if it's just mocking.  even if it's lots of "oh those crazy Democrats, filibustering this good nominee".  

      the point is, taking a stand gets the story into the media.  people might still be complacent about it now, but this way they'll remember that it happened.  when the "good nominee" turns into something different, there's a chance they'll remember the mocking, and for the occasional person, something will click.

      The only other choice is rolling over, and that's been tried enough already.

      although it's getting late, you still have plenty of time

      by maracuja on Fri Jan 27, 2006 at 01:43:15 PM PST

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      •  Exactly--I say fuck the public (4.00)
        They've been asleep for the past 5 years and don't deserve to be taken into account on this vote. They'd rather watch some idiot eat live maggots on TV than spend 5 minutes keeping up with the nomination process. We're supposed to take our cues from them? Not!

        One of the many problems Dems have exhibited in recent years is a "finger in the wind" tendency to wait until the public clearly indicates where it wants to be led, and then run ahead to "lead" it. It doesn't work. Even today's lame-ass public doesn't see this as leadership.

        You lead by leading, not following, and taking the lead on filibustering Alito--win or lose--is exactly the sort of thing that will make the public take notice and start respecting Dems again. It's when we DON'T fight that they lose respect for us, not when we DO fight.

        If Bush has taught us anything in his miserable 5 years in office that we might want to learn from, it's that. Until he totally dropped the ball on Katrina, a majority of Americans, however slim and obviously mistakenly, at least gave him credit for his "leadership" skills, because at least he made a pretense at leading.

        I think that Dems, by ACTUALLY leading in a principled fight, stand to gain as much if not even more respect, because this isn't just about politics, but about principle.

        "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has." Margaret Mead

        by kovie on Fri Jan 27, 2006 at 03:05:23 PM PST

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