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  •  later religons can be more "primitive" (none)
    Progress is not a given in history.

    Regression is possible.

    Mohammed took from the Christian/Judaic myths various names and stories without understanding any of the theological constructions Jews and Christians had created over time.

    Islam is concerned with outward displays of conformity - it is a strictly rule based religon.  You must be "seen" to conform.

    The call to prayers is "come to prayer, come to success" and success is measured as worldly success.  The fact that Western Christian countries have overtaken Islamic countries in terms of material success is taken by many as a direct challenge to the truth of Mohammed's revelation. The earliest proof that Islam was the correct religon was the historical fact that those professing Islam conquered so much of the world.  

    Now the "proof" of Islam's "truth", success, is no longer available and a spiritual crisis has emerged in the 20th century.

    The meaning of jihad as an inward struggle was added by Sufis - and orthodox Sunnis regard Sufis as heretics.

    Whereas in Christianity, the inward struggle is a central tenet of all of the denominations.

    For a longer and better exposition of the differences between Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, read The Star of Redemption by Rosenzweig.

    AS to the claim that Islam is an Abrahamaic religon, if you were going to start a new religon amongst a group of pagans -- it help to claim that you are NOT starting a NEW religon - simply rediscovering an OLD religon whose teachings were corrupted by the current practioners of it.

    SO Muhammed claims that Allah has tried to reveal the truth over and over again - and each time the truth is corrupted by Satan.

    Allah spoke to the Jews, and Abraham was a MUSLIM.  But his descendants corrupted the teachings of Abraham so Allah tried again.  Jesus was a MUSLIM.  And the followers of Jesus corrupted the teachings of Jesus.  So Allah tried again - this time through Mohammed.

    And so now we know, because Khomeini tells us so, that when Jesus said, "Turn the other cheek" that those were the words of Satan.

    Surely this cannot be the case. Jesus (pbuh), this great prophet of God, would never teach someone to turn the other cheek were he to be struck by an oppressor! Indeed, these are the words of Satan and not Jesus.

    So, just because Mohammed claims to be worshiping the same god as the Christians and Jews, that is no reason for Christians or Jews to believe him.  They can decide if the god of Abraham would want Muslims to murder Jews wherever they are hiding.

    The Hour [Resurrection] will not take place until the Muslims fight the Jews, and kill them. And the Jews will hide behind the rock and tree, and the rock and tree will say: 'O Muslim, O servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him!

    Call the world if you Please "The vale of Soul-making" Then you will find out the use of the world. - Keats

    by republican with a small r on Wed Feb 08, 2006 at 07:34:50 PM PST

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      "Allah spoke to the Jews, and Abraham was a MUSLIM"

      Technically, Jews did not yet exist when the God of Abraham spoke to Abraham.  According to the mythos, Jews descended from Abraham.  So Allah did not speak to the Jews, but to the ancestor (or father) of the Jews.  And this ancestor was Abraham - who according to Mohammed was a prophet of Allah and a Muslim.

      Just as Alexander the Great was a Muslim.  See a pattern?  Mohammed was eager to claim that historical/mythical figures whose exploits were familiar to his local audience were also Muslims whose words/deeds were later corrupted by Satan.

      And of course, that rhetorical trick is excellent just in case you might not accurately remember a detail of a biblical story.  If you preach a biblical story that you've taken from Christianity and then someone in the audience says, "Wait, that itinerant Christian preacher who came through last year told the story differently."  why you simply reply that the version in the Christian/Judaic testaments were corrupted by Satan, and your version is the "correct" version.

      (Yes, my corrections may seem pedantic, but when you are trying to explain the intricacies of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam to Hindus, Hindus tend to notice and point out inconsistencies.)

      Call the world if you Please "The vale of Soul-making" Then you will find out the use of the world. - Keats

      by republican with a small r on Wed Feb 08, 2006 at 08:21:50 PM PST

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