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  •  Could you have done all of the above (none)
    in 90 seconds on TV? I saw Dean lay down 5 points in the Democratic program to Katie Couric, and she gave him 30 seconds. He did it.

    "That story is not worth the paper it's rotten on"--Dorothy Parker

    by martyc35 on Sun Feb 12, 2006 at 12:52:38 PM PST

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    •  He wasn't (none)
      on for 90 seconds. I'm not criticizing is appearance with Katie Couric, I'm criticizing his performance today. And, yes, I could have done it better. I have no doubt about that.

      Why are you bringing up Katie Couric and 90 seconds, that has nothing to do with what I've said.

      •  Because (none)
        Your criticism is selective nit-picking and inaccurate. I went and listened to the full audio after it was posted, and you were wrong. He listed the same five points that he did with Couric, and it didn't take him very long. Your characterization of his presentation as "passive" was just plain wrong. He presented the points, in traditional style, as a platform-- this is what we would do--and it was about as active as one could do, considering that it was a list of goals, not accomplishments.

        The audio link is in the comments, so go check again. What would you have him do? List the things the Dems have already done, or the things the Dems want to do? You didn't quote him verbatim, but you said that you did (quotation marks included), so be careful about what you imply about what he said. You were wrong. Face it. He said we want to, we would do, not, as you reported:

        Howard Dean described the entire agenda of the Democratic Party with the words "what we need to be doing is..., what we should be doing is..., it is important that we...," he then tried to tie it all together by throwing in "and that's what we're going to do" at the end.

        This is just plain misquoting to suit your own purpose, and it is a bad practice to put words into someone else's mouth. Could get you in trouble in some other venue. Interpretation is subjective, but yours was just frustration, not an accurate representation of what he said in the context in which he said it. In other words, and this is a big problem with the human brain, you heard what you wanted to hear.

        My criticism was pointed at the length of your post compared to the air time Dean had to make his points. How many minutes (forget seconds) did it take you to compose that message? Certainly many more than he had to answer on the air. The simple fact is that you could not have done better because you could not have thought on your feet as fast as he has trained himself to do. Hindsight, remember?

        I think he has recently been adept at figuring out how to deal with the standard media tactics. If they insist on having a Republican like Bumiller on board, he answers the questions he chooses to answer instead of theirs, and he usually gets his message in despite their efforts to quiet him or make him look foolish. Most of the time, if he prevails, he is on alone and doesn't have to deal with two opponents, the Republican and the media Republican shill.

        I just don't see why you are so frustrated with his media performance. Look at some less effective spokespersons like Joe Biden for comparison. Dean is doing a damned fine job, and we need more like him.

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