Skip to main content

View Diary: WTF: PLAME WORKING ON IRAN AT TIME OF OUTING (143 comments)

Comment Preferences

  •  Oh, and one more detail (4.00)
    The Iranian group that is suspected of turning over the laptop also announced, just as BushCo was beginning this campaign in November 2004, that Iran had bought the blueprint of a bomb.

    Well, we know now that they did in fact buy a blueprint of a bomb.

    But per Risen's book, the US sold it to them. Which would explain why the dissident group knew of it.

    This is the way democracy ends Not with a bomb But with a gavel -Max Baucus

    by emptywheel on Mon Feb 13, 2006 at 10:57:11 AM PST

    [ Parent ]

    •  cute (none)
      Can the United States be hauled in front of the International Court to faces charges of entrapment?
    •  SCIRI? (none)
      Was this one of the Rajavi-inspired opposition groups? They have zero cred. and should be considered the Chalabi of Iranian intel.

      'You can't begin to imagine how effective the Big Lie is.' N. Mailer 'TNatD'

      by jorndorff on Mon Feb 13, 2006 at 11:10:43 AM PST

      [ Parent ]

      •  Yes (none)
        People's Mujahedeen

        Which is what I was suggesting. That it would make sense if they were taking out one of their best sources of intell about what was REALLY going on in Iran, so there wouldn't be any competition for the shit coming from these guys.

        They did a similar thing in Iraq, when they took out one of Plame's colleagues, who had evidence that Iran had no nuclear program. They didn't take out a whole network with "Jerry," but they did make sure the folks in CPD who could refute the BS they were peddling weren't able to do so.

        This is the way democracy ends Not with a bomb But with a gavel -Max Baucus

        by emptywheel on Mon Feb 13, 2006 at 02:50:28 PM PST

        [ Parent ]

        •  MeK (none)
          The various articles I've read on the group as of late paints a fairly bleak picture as far as their support within Iran is concerned. They're often ridiculed by the moderate factions and seem to be considered more of a passe personality cult than a credible revolutionary group. Their press conferences and such have little internal weight as is and likely wouldn't have a real effect unless conditions within the country shift radically. Then,  they could comprise a wider coalition of opposition.

          But if they're the only opposition group the neocons are relying on, I can't see them being terribly useful outside of minor isolated incidents to create chaos on the ground. At least, as things currently stand.

          'You can't begin to imagine how effective the Big Lie is.' N. Mailer 'TNatD'

          by jorndorff on Mon Feb 13, 2006 at 06:49:49 PM PST

          [ Parent ]

    •  heh (none)
      I was under the impression, per Risen, that it was an unsolicited donation to the Iranian office at the IAEA in Vienna; the only cash that changed hands was from the CIA to the "postman".

Subscribe or Donate to support Daily Kos.

Click here for the mobile view of the site