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  •  Embedded in his face, etc (none)
    I wonder if the doctor was saying that those 10 pellets were the ones that were NOT going to be removed.

    I expect that he was HIT by around 200 small pieces of birdshot, and only some smaller portion of them actually penetrated the skin. One would expect that he had clothing on from the neck down, so those that hit his shoulder and rib cage would have had to go through clothing before reaching his skin. Hopefully we will get further details eventually to clear up misconceptions.

    I just heard that he owned several buildings in downtown Austin, and ONE of those buildings has burned TWICE in the last month. The latest estimate of damages from that latest fire? $3.5 million I believe! It was a bad fire, shown repeatedly on the news of course.

    The guy's having a rough 2006!

    ...but not your own facts.

    by slouise217 on Mon Feb 13, 2006 at 03:05:56 PM PST

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    •  fog of war (none)
      I suspect that the 200 was a reference to the number of shot in the shell. Oh, and bad journalism.

      If he was hit by 200 it's not going to be good for him.

      -7.00,-7.74 "He is a bad version of us! No more money for him."

      by subtropolis on Mon Feb 13, 2006 at 04:38:29 PM PST

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      •  peppered by birdshot (4.00)
        Based upon news stories I heard this evening, a typical shotgun shell of this type might hold as many as 400 pellets.

        Secondly, I have heard two sources, one of them the newspaper reporter from Corpus Christi, say that being 'peppered' with birdshot typically means that the pellets did not break the skin.

        I heard another description earlier today that said that MOST of his 'wounds' looked like chicken pox marks - red marks with slightly broken skin, but most of them did not become embedded. Certainly based upon the news stories, some DID break the skin and become embedded.

        My guess? I expect that a few may have come close to vital arteries and tissue in his head and neck areas, and he may have had an emotional reaction to being shot that caused him to be placed in ICU as a precaution. He easily could have some underlying medical conditions, considering his age, that were cause for some concern.

        If one has to be shot, This IS a good way to get shot it appears.

        It's NEVER good to be shot, but if one had to be shot, in a minimally invasive way such as this will be the easiest to recover from. I expect that the surgeon's expert opinion, without ANY blame assessed to her at ALL, overestimated the injuries to this man. Of course, we don't know ALL the facts yet, even with the news that has been released.

        ...but not your own facts.

        by slouise217 on Mon Feb 13, 2006 at 05:21:02 PM PST

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