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  •  There's another minor detail.... (none)
    Nothing justifies torture. NOTHING. Saying war is terrible is to change the subject.

    I've got 5000 rollover minutes and I intend to spend 'em!

    by rgrace on Tue Feb 14, 2006 at 09:26:36 PM PST

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    •  I stand behind your statement 100%. (none)
      If you want to go the "war is terrible" route of excuses, you might as well not get upset about anything that happens to anyone anywhere because, as we all know, "shit happens".

      If a serial rapist commits several rapes in a certain metropolitan city, the same philosophy would presumably also lead one to ask "What's with all these  articles being printed about the rapist in newspapers and on television? Rapes have been taking place in  cities since the beginning of civilization. Running a city can be a really dirty job and you have to take the bad with the good. "  

      Also: People are getting especially worked up about it now because it is happening in our time - on our punchcard, so to say. Naturally, people get more excited and worked up about things they feel they can actually change as opposed to things already gone down in history.

      Lastly, the statement "That's the way wars are..." is the very reason they should always be the very last resort. In the same sense, one could ask:

      "Should an adult ever break the back of a 5 year old child?"
      Short answer: No, never!
      Q: But what if the boy is wielding a knife?
      A: Try to restrain him/her, see first answer!
      Q: But what if ...
      A: No.
      Q: But what if ...
      A: NO!
      Q: But what if ...
      A: O.k., o.k.! If we assume, as you, that boy has telepathic powers and is about to destroy humanity from his secret base and has no arms and legs by which he could be retrained, etc., etc.  

    •  How right you are! (none)
      If you want to go the "war is terrible" route of excuses, you might as well not get upset about anything that happens to anyone anywhere because, as we all know, "shit happens".

      If a serial rapist commits several rapes in a certain metropolitan city, the same philosophy would presumably also lead one to ask "What's with all these  articles being printed about the rapist in newspapers and on television? Rapes have been taking place in  cities since the beginning of civilization. Running a city can be a really dirty job and you have to take the bad with the good. "  

      Also: People are getting especially worked up about it now because it is happening in our time - on our punchcard, so to say. Naturally, people get more excited and worked up about things they feel they can actually change as opposed to things already gone down in history.

      Lastly, the statement "That's the way wars are..." is the very reason they should always be the very last resort. In the same sense, one could ask:

      "Should an adult ever break the back of a 5 year old child?"
      Short answer: No, never!
      Q: But what if the boy is wielding a knife?
      A: Try to restrain him/her, see first answer!
      Q: But what if ...
      A: No.
      Q: But what if ...
      A: NO!
      Q: But what if ...
      A: O.k., o.k.! If we assume, as you, that boy has telepathic powers and is about to destroy humanity from his secret base and has no arms and legs by which he could be retrained, etc., etc.

      •  Apologies for posting twice. (4.00)
        The screen stalled and I didn't get a message  saying my post had gone through (my internet connection was interrupted).

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