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    I'm advocating nothing of the sort.

    And yet I will be quite surprised if Bush supporters peacefully tolerate mass peaceful protest.

    It's not that they don't know Jack. It's that they don't know him on a first-name basis. :)

    by cskendrick on Thu Feb 16, 2006 at 04:36:06 PM PST

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    •  But don't underestimate incredible power (none)
      inherent in the deep institutions and love our our country residing within the core leaders of both parties.  

      We will accomplish the successful transition to the next administration completely peacefully.

      Just look at the newspapers today.  Peggy Noonan is speculatinng in the Wall Street Journal Opinion page that Republicans are now more eager than Democrats to get Cheney to resign for the good of the country and party.  

      Bob Herbert of the NYT is running an editorial (for subscription only) demanding Cheney's resignation.

      Now that he has become more of a liability than an asset to the Republican party he will be out of here withing months if not weeks.

      Last week HoundDog predicted Cheney would resign by the end of this week (Sunday.)

      I would lay even money that he'll be foreced to resign by the end of the Month.  But wouldn't bet too much.  But I will be astonished and be willing to eat this whole column and all the comments if he makes it past April 1, 2006.  LOL

      I'm serious.

      Yes, I agree with all the comments that this is the most narcissistic and psychopathelogical group of senior White House executives perhaps every assembled.

      However, our founders were historically brilliant when they set up the tri-cameral system of goverment.

      Don't imagine even for a moment that the collective power of several hundred Republican Senators, Representatives, Governers and party organization can't and will not overpower Cheney et. al. in the blink of an eye if once they become convinced he is a liability to their power.

      And I think they've already come to this point.

      Cheney is toast.

      He's probably already receiving the private messages that his final time has come.

      And if he doesn't go willingly, guitely, and gracefully, the criticisms, derision, and eventually other forms of pressures will escalate so rapidly he will be a laughing stock.

      And if that doesn't work quickly enough, various sources will start to leak evidence of unspeakably damaging and criminal violations that would have Cheney frog marched out in chains.

      But I seriously doubt it will ever come even close to this.  In the world Dick Cheney comes from, virtually everyone knows that their positions of power are transient Faustian deals with the devil.  

      And when your time comes, all it takes is that certain look and downcast glances from your closest friends that it over and you must leave.  

      Cheney is damaged goods.  


      As Peggy Noonan and Bob Herbert have pointed out this afternoon, this hunting accident as stuck to him like Ford's stumbling, Carter's Rabbit attack, and Clinton's Monica.

      It symbollizes and reminds people of everything they hate about him.  Arrogance, lack of compassion, mindfullness of side affects, contempt for others, and the media, incompetence in Iraq etc. etc.

      He is toast.  See Non-violence works.  (Although, this is not really the kind of "force of love and compassion" for ones enemies that Ghandhi, King, Gene Sharp, the Buddha, Emerson, Thoreau, Christ and Jesus were talking about.

      I confess, I fall well short of the loftiness of the true meaning of "love thine enemy" that is part of the core of the true philosophy of non-violence resistence.  

      However, I'm convinced that it is the direction of goodness that I wish to strive for.  

      And I think it can be justified as our collective best strategy on purely  a objective, data, and scientific rationale.  One does not need to resort to ethics, morality, religion, humanism, or spiritual arguments to convince me that peaceful chance withing our existing governmental, constitutional, democratic institutions is the only and best way we can successfully advance our progressive goals and agendas.

      Wait and see.  

      Let's come back to this discussion a month from now and see.

      Peaceful change works.  

      And can be vastly more powerful and even terrifyingly decisive than the alternatives
      when the time is right.


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