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  •  The US and Saudia Arabia (none)
    are also deep in each others pockets.  Guess where the majority of the hijackers on 911 were from?

    Do you honestly not see the difference between having a British company, and the govt. of the UAE handling security for this country?

    Regular UAE people are going to be doing whatever jobs the governmental company is contracting to do.  Common sense would tell you that their loyalties are more in line with those of the area,than they are to us.  Right now the entire area in the region is interested in getting at the West.  Certainly Britian has our best interest in mind much more so than the UAE. .  I am sure the country is not an isolated entity, and the workers have friends and families in other areas of the Middle East.

    Giving our countries security to a country within an area of the world that wishes us the most harm and in fact has had a part to play in harming us before, is just not smart.  Common sense would show you the difference between a British Contract and one with the UAE.  

    Please look into the connection of that country with the 911 perpetrators, and their recognition of the Taliban as a legitimate governmental structure.  

    You will find the connection easily reading through this thread.  Some other astute posters have listed them.

    •  I do see the difference (1.50)
      It's a shade of brown.

      RULE OF LAW. That's all the reason you need to oppose Republicans.

      by nightsweat on Mon Feb 20, 2006 at 06:10:08 PM PST

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      •  OK, that's too flip. (4.00)
        But tell me the mechanism to cause chaos or destruction that this gives a terror group that they didn't already have?

        I really do think the administration's constant drum beat of "Arabs bad, Arabs bad" has affected even the most liberal of us.

        RULE OF LAW. That's all the reason you need to oppose Republicans.

        by nightsweat on Mon Feb 20, 2006 at 06:20:24 PM PST

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      •  Rate it down if you must (none)
        It's flip, but that doesn't make it any less true.

        Debate me, don't just rate and run.

        RULE OF LAW. That's all the reason you need to oppose Republicans.

        by nightsweat on Mon Feb 20, 2006 at 08:22:47 PM PST

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      •  I didn't rate you, but I tried to lay out some (none)
        issues above, as to how they differ.  It really doesn't have a lot to do with race. Did you read it?  Apparently some think the whole country for the most part, and most of this thread are racist.  How is it that we are and you aren't?  We must be all evil and you are pure, or perhaps you're seeing it with a calloused eye, instead of an open mind as to all of the reasons people might be against this.
        •  Arabs in Charge of US ports? (none)
          Just read the headlines.  Are you telling me there's not an appeal to irrational xenophobia and bigotry at work there?  

          "Arabs in Charge of US ports?" "
          Concern grows for Arabs running U.S. Ports"
          "Will Arab Deal Put U.S. Ports At Risk?"

          http://msnbc.msn.com/...
          http://www.cbsnews.com/...

          As for security issues, these remind me of the WMD "evidence" everyone "knew" we had on Iraq.  I see a lot of assertions and accusations rather than facts--unless you assume every arab is guilty of terrorism or friends with Al Queda.

          Even if there were legitimate security concerns, the xenophobic appeals are transparent.  If the goal is to further alienate moderate arabs and muslims we need as allies to fight terrorism--good job!  
           

          I had my own blog for a while, but I decided to go back to just pointless, incessant barking. --Cartoon Dog, The New Yorker

          by markymarx on Mon Feb 20, 2006 at 10:54:44 PM PST

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        •  I do understand (none)
          People are generally against this deal out of fear and misunderstanding.

          You're not evil, just not fully informed.

          RULE OF LAW. That's all the reason you need to oppose Republicans.

          by nightsweat on Tue Feb 21, 2006 at 05:08:02 AM PST

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    •  Please elaborate... (none)
      Regular UAE people are going to be doing whatever jobs the governmental company is contracting to do.

      Hop, do you work in the ocean freight industry?

      I seriously doubt many employees would be replaced. this. Do you really think all the hundreds of people who work at the ports will be switched out with "regular UAE people"? I doubt even the very top guy in each port will be changed to a foreigner. DP might put in their own company man, but that guy will most likely be an American maritime executive whose been in each port's particular market a while.

      Also, what specific security "jobs" that the government is doing now do you think will cease if DP manages the ports?

      •  I don't know. (none)
        The details aren't clear, but I read and heard the same thing.  As I said below, tonight they said that this was uncertain, but that the company has a history of filling the jobs with foreign nationals.  You know that some of the companies coming in to the US have no compuntion with replacing workers. And They do it in govt. all the time when  a mayor, governor, etc. change with no thought.  Of course that is a different situation all together, but different companies do like to hire their own choices.

        I'm just wondering about what I am reading and hearing.  I don't actually know that Americans have them now, do you.  Who did the British company hire?

        As a side note.  I think I heard a consultant say on the same program tonight that foriegn companies have handled our border security since 2000, so its not a new situation.  What else happened in 2000, I'm trying to think.

        If that is true, then we have never had a turnover from one foriegn company to another, so its anybodys guess what could happen.

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