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  •  Worse Than You Think (4.00)
    I am certainly not a vegetarian, and trying to go entirely veggie would be beyond me. But sometimes you get appalled. Everyone talks about the nasty ways in which hogs and chickens are treated. But other animals we don't think about - out of sight, out of mind.

    For a while there we ate tilapia. A really great tasting fish, but a bit bony. But we could get really good sized ones for $1 each. A buck! Then we found out that they were being decimated in Indonesia by large fishing fleets, dynamiting, and so forth.

    Or shrimp. Years ago it was a big treat to eat shrimp. Now people eat more shrimp than any other seafood. They've gotten way less expensive. Red Lobster has all you can eat. What happened was that in places like Thailand they destroyed all sorts of good environment on the coast by flooding it with seawater and then setting up shrimp farms. This is based on a recent article in Slate.

    Then there's the Chilean seabass. Fishermen off Chile were doing fine until the big fleets came in and took over, eventually decimating everything. The fishermen went deeper and started catching these weird looking fish that are really quite prehistoric. Turns out these babies really have a lot of fat in them because they have a different method of flotation from normal fish. Cooks everywhere fell in love with it because due to the high fat content it's impossible to screw up when cooking it. So the big fleets have moved in and the fishermen are screwed again. (So are the fish.)

    Hey, 6.5 billion people on earth, each of which wants 2 meals a day - 13 billion meals a day. Last I read (IIRC), the world's oceans only have 40% or so of the fish there were 100 years ago. Not sure when the collapse will come, but it seems inevitable.

    And so many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway, so this--this (chuckle) is working very well for them. (Barbara Bush)

    by Krusty on Thu Feb 23, 2006 at 08:29:07 AM PST

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    •  Check this out (4.00)

      "...those who torment us for our own good will torment us w/o end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." -C.S. Lewis

      by buddythedog on Thu Feb 23, 2006 at 09:25:11 AM PST

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      •  Very Nice (none)
        Thank you. They mentioned Chilean Seabass and Shrimp. Didn't mention Tilapia as eco-worst, although they did recommend eating only US-caught ones. How you gonna know that, though?

        And so many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway, so this--this (chuckle) is working very well for them. (Barbara Bush)

        by Krusty on Thu Feb 23, 2006 at 11:41:12 AM PST

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    •  Well,I,for one,am having trouble (none)
      with chicken after seeing Napolean Dynamite. No preaching just the seeing the factory where they are crowded in cages was revolting. The stress must be awful,their bodies loaded with adrenaline,and then we eat that meat with all its poisons. No wonder we have so many strange physical problems.

      Read Bernard Henri-Levy War,Evil,and the End of History for his brutal observations on the ground in Africa at the risk of his life. He is no armchair philosopher. Same conclusions as this diary with lots of terrible horrifying detail. The warlords take the money from the oil (diamond,etc)companies and bank it in Switzerland. These brutal barbarians become filthy rich. And of course,the western world supplies the guns but not the roses.

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